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I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM
Just because it seems somewhat thematic to have them be able to check him if necessary.


Seems significant that there is a Trinity of specific strength women directly associated to Rands life.


Min is the other woman, not Egwene. There can't just suddenly be a trinity involving Egwene to control Rand.

I think those three women were made equal to remove any sense of deferring between them. Not that they necessarily would, but when Nynaeve's around you kind of forget about Elayne. Considering Elayne, Egwene and Aviendha did a few things together, RJ made them equal in one way so that we'd forget about it.


Just that Rand has these 3 women (who have all be love interests) around him and they are all identical in Power. Just seems to fall into that category of "trinity" to me. I doubt anything will ever come of it other than the fact that it's another set of 3 around him. Didn't Linda do a whole numerology post back on wotmania??
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2130 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1208 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1272 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1344 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1345 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1287 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1219 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1325 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1156 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1222 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1057 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1123 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1134 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1013 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1034 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1212 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1133 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1103 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1103 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1091 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1154 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1017 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1122 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1034 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1075 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1081 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1036 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1087 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1089 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1080 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1015 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 1996 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1186 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1100 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1065 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1035 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1220 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1224 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1024 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1054 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1074 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1065 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1203 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1216 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1064 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1175 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1191 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1133 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1185 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1151 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 909 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 922 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1000 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 877 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1169 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1157 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1098 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1074 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 614 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1021 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 521 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 939 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1119 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1077 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1125 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1019 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1151 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 911 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 447 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 997 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1073 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1297 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 945 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1178 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 981 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1012 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1156 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1138 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1209 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1059 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1056 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 980 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 880 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1199 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1069 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1072 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1050 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1061 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1104 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1195 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1041 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1093 Views
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