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I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM
Just because it seems somewhat thematic to have them be able to check him if necessary.


Seems significant that there is a Trinity of specific strength women directly associated to Rands life.


Min is the other woman, not Egwene. There can't just suddenly be a trinity involving Egwene to control Rand.

I think those three women were made equal to remove any sense of deferring between them. Not that they necessarily would, but when Nynaeve's around you kind of forget about Elayne. Considering Elayne, Egwene and Aviendha did a few things together, RJ made them equal in one way so that we'd forget about it.


Just that Rand has these 3 women (who have all be love interests) around him and they are all identical in Power. Just seems to fall into that category of "trinity" to me. I doubt anything will ever come of it other than the fact that it's another set of 3 around him. Didn't Linda do a whole numerology post back on wotmania??
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2356 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1409 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1500 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1561 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1610 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1497 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1469 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1527 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1362 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1451 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 1273 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1357 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1343 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 1215 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 1269 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1428 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1329 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1320 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1299 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 1303 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1351 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 1235 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1352 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 1237 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 1312 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1285 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 1236 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 1305 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1300 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 1311 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 1222 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 2218 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1399 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1274 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 1274 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 1232 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1419 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1447 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 1240 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 1247 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 1285 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 1287 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1456 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1444 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 1275 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1400 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1407 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1321 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1393 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1335 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 1106 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 1103 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 1204 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 1086 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1365 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1350 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1293 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 1255 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 718 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 1241 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 617 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 1141 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1321 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 1263 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1306 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 1236 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1344 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 1129 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 568 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 1218 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 1320 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1502 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 1139 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1379 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 1177 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 1213 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1395 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1373 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1426 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 1247 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 1264 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 1188 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 1072 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1443 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 1265 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 1301 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 1257 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 1252 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1301 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1398 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 1213 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1313 Views
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