Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her.
Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM
We've seen her do it, and he confirms that if he hadn't done something about it her weave would have settled on him.
To actually overwhelm Rand would take about 3 women of Forsaken strength. At those levels he would be able to do nothing. It would be Cyndane vs Alivia except that Alivia is very skilled - like Fionwe said. Lanfear wanted to link with two other Forsaken to assure their victory if they trapped him, so this confirms what he said. However, if one Forsaken brings him to his knees like Lanfear did, there is an opening for a shield.
Lanfear tried to cut him off, and he stopped her, without really knowing how to.
Take a step back. We KNOW that to shield someone of the SAME SEX who is already holding the source, you have to be MUCH stronger than that person, unless you are much more skilled.
We also know that it is even HARDER to shield someone of the opposite sex, meaning that your strength advantage has to be even greater.
And lastly, we KNOW Lanfear is not stronger than Lews Therin, and therefore it would be impossible for her to cut him off if he was already holding the Power.
So the obvious explanation for her coming close to succeeding in FoH, is that Rand is not at his full strength yet, and FAR, FAR from his full skill and knowledge yet.
No three women could block him from the Source...
15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM
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I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM
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I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him
15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM
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Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once...
15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM
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Huh?
15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM
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Re: Huh?
15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM
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15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM
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Re:
15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM
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No, this is before.
15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM
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Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin
15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM
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I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding.
15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM
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Simple answer to settle it:
15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM
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So Talaan is God?
15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM
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It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage
15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM
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So?
15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM
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Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean...
15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM
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You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right?
15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM
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Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai
15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM
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Lanfear can do it alone
15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM
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She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet...
15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM
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Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her.
15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM
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She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air.
15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM
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Bah!
15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM
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I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are...
15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM
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Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her.
15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM
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It becomes a battle of skill then...
15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM
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Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone
15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM
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Oh come on...
15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM
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I know you are not that ignorant...
15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM
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But that isn't true...
15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM
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Let me spell it out for you...
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Re: Let me spell it out for you...
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+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman.
15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM
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Now that's a ridiculous comparison
15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM
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Touchy point, heh?
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Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him.
15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM
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Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate?
15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM
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If you wish...
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Re: If you wish...
15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM
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Whyever not?
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Re: Whyever not?
15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM
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Even in that situation
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Re: Even in that situation
15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM
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Okay...
15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM
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Re: Okay...
15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM
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So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say?
*NM*
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What?
15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM
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If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM*
15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM
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Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements.
15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM
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Okay, here's what I think you're saying...
15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM
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Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire...
15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM
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It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM*
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Re: No three women could block him from the Source...
16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM
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I disagree.
16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM
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I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could
17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM
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Agreed
17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM
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They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength
17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM
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They would be far more than 3 average AS
17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM
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Another related quote
18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM
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well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass
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