Advantages and Disadvantages to both large and small gateways
Knightscape Send a noteboard - 08/06/2010 03:04:28 AM
1. Those Shaido women are months, if not years from being trained well enough to be used on a battle field.
Train them and have them specialize in gateways and traveling.
2. Channeling for hours at a time exhausts people to the point of being useless so the Seanchan would need to have dedicated gateway holders who would take no part in the battles and the army would subsequently be trapped in the new location. In effect creating potential suicide missions.
3. It's sort of like crossing a river on a battle field too... open a Gateway too close and the enemy can feel it ... a crafty general lets about half your force come through then slaughters them.
This would be a problem for both large and small gateways.
4. Will require the Seanchan to completely reorganize their military operations completely since they'll have to build specialized wagons/carts, dedicate far more damane resources to opening gateways than they typically would have to a single army group. Look at it from this angle ... there are at least 4 Major Seanchan camps/armies, Almoth Plain, Ebu Dar, Illian border, Murandy border. Each of these would need at least 100 damane to do nothing but open gateways for Traveling. What is that 1/3 of all damane resources dedicated to one task? And odds are this will be the strongest group of damane too.
Nope. They would have to have one specialized unit of damane that would travel to wherever they were needed to do a mass transit. The damane within each Seanchan army would still know the gateway weaves and could act as auxilary.
Sure you could move a pretty significant force with enough preparation, but it raises significant problems. Not to mention if you are facing an AS army on the other side they will have massive linked circles creating 1 big gate way that will take their army about 1/10th the time to move through, without tireing themselves out. Yes you are better off than you were before, but you are still at a significant disadvantage to those who can in fact link.
Trying to move an army through one big gateway instead of many small gateways creates several problems;
1) staging area - a huge area will be need for both the entrance and exit points
2) confusion - with so many trying to cram into one large gateway you are going to have to be careful everyone doesn't get in everyone else's way which could really slow things down, as opposed to many small gateways with plenty of space between them
3) using that much OP to open a large gateway will give away your location easily, using many gateways spread out over an area will give a good chance of surprise
In the end unlinked Traveling is far more effective for either very small groups of scouts etc
In the end linked or unlinked traveling will probably be more effective for either small groups or scouts, but in general many small gateways have enough advantages over one large gateway that it could be a huge factor in any conflict.
All good things come to those who wait.
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06/06/2010 07:30:37 PM
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Interesting
06/06/2010 07:41:56 PM
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BS said Demandred's identity is the greatest secret in the story, and will pay off in the end...
06/06/2010 08:05:51 PM
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militarily perhaps, but not a duel
07/06/2010 04:56:55 AM
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Re: militarily perhaps, but not a duel
07/06/2010 01:34:04 PM
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Re: militarily perhaps, but not a duel
07/06/2010 04:17:26 PM
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Oh I like the villains to lose everything before they die
07/06/2010 04:18:43 PM
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Bah
07/06/2010 04:38:36 PM
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Skilled Rand would be nice.
07/06/2010 09:24:56 PM
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I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out
07/06/2010 09:41:47 PM
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Re: I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out
07/06/2010 10:00:44 PM
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You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS"
07/06/2010 10:08:49 PM
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Re: You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS"
07/06/2010 10:22:11 PM
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Moridin IMO will be all Rand's to deal with
07/06/2010 10:56:28 PM
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I think Demandred might be...
07/06/2010 09:48:29 AM
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I favor the Roederan theory
07/06/2010 01:35:37 PM
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I have this feeling that Elaida is going to surprise us, and Demandred is in Caemlyn...
06/06/2010 08:33:16 PM
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Meh. I think Elaida will end up like other women in the series who sucked
06/06/2010 10:56:47 PM
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While Traveling is certainly a tactical advantage, I think the Seanchan won't be able to use it.
06/06/2010 11:15:56 PM
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A hundred gateways next to each other is as good as one giant gateway...
06/06/2010 11:36:48 PM
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but no carts or wagons.
07/06/2010 12:15:29 AM
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Fully supplied armies could be moved
07/06/2010 02:45:15 AM
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you are missing the point that this would create several major problems
07/06/2010 01:49:08 PM
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Advantages and Disadvantages to both large and small gateways
08/06/2010 03:04:28 AM
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The logistics would be practically impossible, as even RJ stated (see quote below)
08/06/2010 01:41:03 PM
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But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not...
07/06/2010 02:45:26 AM
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Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not...
07/06/2010 01:52:40 PM
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Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not...
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Re: But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not...
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07/06/2010 07:48:01 PM
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We have no clue if Damane can tie off weaves
07/06/2010 08:28:08 PM
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Re: We have no clue if Damane can tie off weaves
07/06/2010 09:22:24 PM
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One disagreement
07/06/2010 09:33:09 PM
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I agree...but
07/06/2010 09:44:54 PM
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That's just it ... Egwene, Elayne and Rand have already thought of it and considered the uses
07/06/2010 10:04:50 PM
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Egwene to pass information? You're joking, right?
07/06/2010 10:59:25 PM
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Not to mention...
07/06/2010 09:26:28 PM
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Re: Not to mention...
07/06/2010 09:38:31 PM
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yes, but the cost may prove too high to allocate so many resources against Traveling
07/06/2010 09:44:16 PM
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If they get Traveling, I hope we read the first time the Seanchan move their "creatures" through
07/06/2010 06:22:47 PM
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Re: If they get Traveling, I hope we read the first time the Seanchan move their "creatures" through
07/06/2010 11:03:22 PM
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The little thing is Rand's angreal IMO
07/06/2010 04:52:17 AM
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I think the thing from books 4-6 has to do with dreaming/TAR abilities.
08/06/2010 12:09:53 AM
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I think BS has inadvertently given away a massive clue regarding Demandred's identity...
06/06/2010 09:12:58 PM
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What's to prevent him from hiding as a female? *NM*
06/06/2010 10:30:08 PM
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Forgive me if I don't give that possibility serious consideration.
06/06/2010 10:36:20 PM
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Bc it's clearly way too dissatisfying. And Demmy's certainly too proud to hide as a woman! *NM*
07/06/2010 01:01:52 AM
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Well. Galgan, then. *NM*
07/06/2010 04:05:57 PM
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Can't be Galgan
07/06/2010 04:37:36 PM
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galgan's out, but maybe...
07/06/2010 07:01:12 PM
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Or...
08/06/2010 09:37:21 AM
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I doubt the new Taraboner king is involved
08/06/2010 12:52:45 PM
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As I said, I think...
08/06/2010 01:30:39 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with most of it
08/06/2010 01:49:54 PM
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look above, you guys agreed on stuff for 19 hours. New record? *NM*
08/06/2010 04:12:47 PM
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