I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
It servers no purpose to the plot unless RJ wanted her to lose the Throne of Seanchan completely. The Seanchan are far to set in their ways to accept her as Empress if she was damane.
Hell, even sul'dam refuse Healing from Nynaeve in TGS!
I dunno, I rather hope she will. I find the whole damane system utterly sickening, so it might be fitting for Tuon to channel on her own.
I think of the talk she had with Mat about how she is so completely different from the damane because she "chooses" not to channel, just like she chooses not to commit murder. In doing so she is rather conveninently ignoring the fact that due to the spark, the damane did not HAVE a choice, and ofcourse it has been said time and again that once you touch the OP even once, it is impossible for anyone to stop.
I am not the biggest Tuon fan so I would enjoy seeing her channel and then claim that she won't do so again, only to then have her nose rubbed on to the fact that its impossible to resist the OP at that point. Might make her see some of the cruelty and injustice that is going on. Maybe.
It might not happen, infact it probably wont. But I will say that if it does, I will enjoy it immensely, and also hope that it will perhaps make Tuon a bit better and more likable person once she admits she was wrong.
And ofcourse it does not necessarily have to mean that she will lose her authority. We know now that things such as inverting/reversing and other ways to hide your channeling ability would allow her to keep her talent a secret(This assumes her channeling did not happen in public ofcourse). Only the collar would detect her, but maybe there are ways around that. The AS would also likely help her since a channeler on the throne would only be beneficial to them. And ofcourse Mat's reaction upon learning that Tuon has become a fullblown channeler should be fun.
I don't mind Tuon... don't like her really either though. I hated her whole "I choose not too" routine, but can blow that off by blaming ignorance, since it's clear the Seanchan have no clue about the Spark v. Learning. And I was impressed with her sense of self in TGS when she resisted Dark Rand's ta'veren pull.
I wouldn't mind if she did start Channeling, as long as there was a purpose to it beyond ... oh look the Seanchan Empress can Channel, and I think I would be rather irritated if she was some uber-channeler on top of it too ... I think I'll be seriously annoyed if she turns out to be one of the 6 stronger than Nynaeve. IMO it would be better if she was another Morgase, just enough ability to be "cursed", but not enough to be worth anything either
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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