If they put the COLLAR on every girl, then the sul'dam's secret would have been outed ages ago.
Because sul'dam are women who have the ability to be taught, but never were. The collar and control them, but they can't channel themselves.
Because sul'dam are women who have the ability to be taught, but never were. The collar and control them, but they can't channel themselves.
You should read my post past the first paragraph. I explained my reasoning for why the Sul'dam would pass that initial test of being collared up to 25. She wouldn't have learned enough to be considered a "channeler" of sorts until many more years of being Sul'dam.
For the sake of putting numbers to it lets say this:
A woman who has the spark manifests around 18.
A woman who can be taught manifests sometime after she begins learning.
A woman learning the power gets proficient between 3 and six years, so now our woman is approx 21-24. This is for someone actively learning to channel.
It would be a reasonable assumption that a woman observing the one power in the belief she cannot use it would require MUCH longer to train, making her AT LEAST 30 before she can begin to see weaves, and when her ability would be able to be sensed or controlled by the a'dam.
Every woman tries on the collar first, then the bracelet.
The Great Hunt
Ch. 46 To Come Out Of The Shadow
Egwene speaking: "Not just any woman can become a-a Leash Holder. Renna thought she was being friendly telling me about it. It is apparently a feastday in Seanchan villages when the sul'dam come to test the girls. They want to find any like you and me, and leash them, but they let all the others put on a bracelet to see if they can feel what the poor woman in the collar feels. Those who can are taken away to be trained sul'dam. They are the women who could be taught."
Collars first, bracelets second, until 25. Sul'dam manifest much past 25.
I will concede that it may be possible once a woman has tested positive to become sul'dam that she is never tested again whether or not she is 25 yet, but I do not know. I think my theory is a good one either way.
This message last edited by FanEditor10 on 06/06/2010 at 12:51:11 AM
Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25?
02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM
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It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM
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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day
04/06/2010 07:19:36 PM
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A few details to consider
02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM
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Re: A few details to consider
02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM
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Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
03/06/2010 03:38:25 AM
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Re: Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics
04/06/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn.
03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM
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I think they retest only the sul'dam
02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM
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I'll have to check my EotW, but I think Eg did have some fevers before Winternight. *NM*
02/06/2010 06:34:35 PM
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Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam
04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM
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Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM
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Re: Point on the testing
08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM
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I'd think that would be a tiny chance given how diligent the Seanchan are in this regard
08/06/2010 02:58:15 PM
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Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned"
02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM
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This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH
03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM
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That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar?
04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM
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I am absolutely sure. Quote from book.
04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM
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Toun, though too young can be collared
06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM
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I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM
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Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel
06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM
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I just see all of that as potential plot lines for the planned follow-up Mat/Tuon in Seanchan novels
08/06/2010 02:09:26 AM
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Not at all
02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM
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As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously.
03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM
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Huh?
03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM
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Sure
03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM
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Bah...
03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM
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Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled.
03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM
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Re: Sure
04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM
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I don't know if that's totally true
04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM
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Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this.
04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM
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I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest
04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM
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You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan.
04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM
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Meh
04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM
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I love that: "I'm convinced Rand al'Thor is the most monotonous man in the world."
04/06/2010 05:47:01 PM
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I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 03:51:42 PM
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Re: I think the number of characters directly contributes to the situation.
04/06/2010 05:04:52 PM
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Brandon brings out supporting chars. better, it's true.
04/06/2010 03:17:52 AM
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You're absolutely right. Sanderson gets "inside" the characters a bit more. *NM*
04/06/2010 03:52:29 PM
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