Except for the fact that Lews Therin tells Lanfear that he turned away from her long before he met Ilyena, which implies that they were together when he met her. He says that her constant assumption that Ilyena 'stole him' is a lie. There's no evidence that they dated when they were in 'college' and hundreds of years later she was still after him.
Why did he turn away from her do you think? Regardless of Ilyena, LTT dumped her for being a selfish bitch. But I think the quote supports that he and Lanfear were finished before he met Ilyena...
tFoH
Gateways
"You were always ambitious, Mierin." His voice grated in his ears. "Why do you think I turned away from you? It wasn't Ilyena, whatever you like to think. You were out of my heart long before ever I met her. Ambition is all there is to you. Power is all you ever wanted. You disgust me!"
There's another passage that talks about remembering being "young and just learning about their abilities" too.
Beauty and strength have nothing to do with getting a third name. It was given for serving society, and we don't know how rare or difficult it was to get. You might as well say that every scientist who has never achieved a Nobel prize is a loser who hasn't used his gifts.
See my above post on this one. What I'm saying is that Lanfear not having the 3rd name is like Einstein not winning a highschool science fair.
I have to say I think the reason Graendal became my favorite Forsaken was for this quote, which really highlights what we are discussing here.
tFoH
The First Sparks Fall
"If this Rand al'Thor really is Lews Therin Telamon reborn," Graendal went on, settling herself on the man's back where he crouched on all fours, "I am surprised you haven't tried to snuggle him into your bed, Lanfear. Or would it be so easy? I seem to remember Lews Therin led you by the nose, not the other way around. Squelched your little tantrums. Sent you running to fetch his wine, in a manner of speaking." She set her own wine on the tray, held out rigidly by the sightlessly kneeling woman. "You were so obsessed with him you'd have stretched out at his feet if he said 'rug'."
tFoH
The First Sparks Fall
"If this Rand al'Thor really is Lews Therin Telamon reborn," Graendal went on, settling herself on the man's back where he crouched on all fours, "I am surprised you haven't tried to snuggle him into your bed, Lanfear. Or would it be so easy? I seem to remember Lews Therin led you by the nose, not the other way around. Squelched your little tantrums. Sent you running to fetch his wine, in a manner of speaking." She set her own wine on the tray, held out rigidly by the sightlessly kneeling woman. "You were so obsessed with him you'd have stretched out at his feet if he said 'rug'."
Graendal - source of unbiased evidence. LOL
But Graendal's MO is to use the truth to poke at people ... look how she toys with Sammael later, and her ever so "casual" comments about the male Forsaken being less trustworthy if saidin is cleansed by Rand. Or her making fun of Mesaana being a teacher etc... it's part of her game!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Matching the Dragon with a mate
- 02/06/2010 10:09:49 AM
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I think there is more to these women than simply being the Dragon's Mate
- 02/06/2010 12:09:10 PM
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What more IS there to being a woman?
- 02/06/2010 03:52:23 PM
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Re: What more IS there to being a woman?
- 02/06/2010 04:58:36 PM
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Re: What more IS there to being a woman?
- 03/06/2010 08:51:25 AM
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riiiight
- 03/06/2010 11:20:31 AM
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Re: riiiight
- 03/06/2010 01:53:49 PM
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the problem with your working out how strong they are is that it always begins with how much
- 03/06/2010 02:14:08 PM
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Re: the problem with your working out how strong they are is that it always begins with how much
- 03/06/2010 02:23:32 PM
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I never said that's all they were
- 03/06/2010 08:49:53 AM
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Re: I never said that's all they were
- 03/06/2010 11:44:51 AM
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Yeah Nynaeve is fantastic
- 02/06/2010 12:48:56 PM
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oh dear god no
- 02/06/2010 02:41:13 PM
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Back in the concept days I believe the DR was more like Tam and the love interest
- 02/06/2010 02:55:45 PM
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- 02/06/2010 02:15:35 PM
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*NM*
Great post, but I would disagree with the top part
- 02/06/2010 05:58:59 PM
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- 03/06/2010 09:27:05 AM
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LOL
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Re: LOL
- 03/06/2010 12:41:20 PM
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Excellent point!
- 03/06/2010 12:50:03 PM
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Re: Excellent point!
- 03/06/2010 01:34:04 PM
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Re: Excellent point!
- 03/06/2010 02:05:19 PM
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Yeah, if only it was accurate
- 03/06/2010 01:51:48 PM
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Re: Yeah, if only it was accurate
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Ah, so by great you mean Ghandi, and not Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great...
- 05/06/2010 08:57:52 AM
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I think there is more to these characters than being a mate, and I don't think the Pattern cares.
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Re: I think there is more to these characters than being a mate, and I don't think the Pattern cares
- 02/06/2010 03:40:38 PM
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I doubt he needs one. They just get in the way.
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Re: I doubt he needs one. They just get in the way.
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- 02/06/2010 10:42:17 PM
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- 02/06/2010 10:42:17 PM
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Meh. How do we know they aren't awarded the way the Nobel Peace Prize is in our world?
- 02/06/2010 11:33:48 PM
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I don't know if Lanfear, the perfect woman didn't have a 3rd name it must have been
- 02/06/2010 11:49:02 PM
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