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Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day Datakim Send a noteboard - 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM
So I don't think it's something people dread, even if they should. Also, since channeling is considered evil, they would probably never consider that they could possibly be able to do it. It would always be "someone else."


Good point, I forgot about the "positive" aspect of sul'dam. But even so I would expect fear. I mean the whole thing is basically a sort of lottery where you might win big, but you might ALSO be horribly tortured and enslaved for life. I would think the negative part would have to be on your mind at some level. And even sul'dam continue to be tested until 25.

I wonder if it possible for a sparker to first test positive for a sul'dam and then afterwards for the collar itself. I guess it must be given that the testing is done. That would still mean fear and doubt even after you became a sul'dam. More so perhaps since at that point you would actually have seen firsthand what would happen to you. Heck, if you tested positive for channeling as a sul'dam, one would think the chance that you might also have the spark would be significant so a lot of sul'dam eventually end up as damane afterall.

Hmm. Do we know the statistics involved? I mean there seem to be a lot of damane around. Makes me wonder actually how they could possibly compete with the channeling capacity of the AS and the Asha'man who both also accept/train learners. Should they not already be outnumbered? How many people are in Seanchan total? I am not entirely sure what the percentages or channelers to population are, nor how many people the foodproduction in a medieval society like Seanchan could support. Help?

Anyway, you might be right about the "someone else" thing. Especially if actual sparkers are rare enough that someone being caught happens very rarely. Out of sight, out of mind and all that. It also just occurred to me to wonder if the average Seanchan citizen knows how involuntary becoming a channeler is. I mean one would expect this would be obvious since no one wants to be a channeler there, but the Seanchan are brainwashed in other ways too. Maybe they are conditioned from childhood to think that all those who are caught were evil people who chose to become channelers, rather than the innocent victims with bad luck that they are in truth. And naturally this would mean that a "good girl" would not need to fear becoming a damane since they would never "choose" to channel.

But yeah, I guess the impact is probably much less significant than I originally thought.
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Seanchan girls. Do they live in terror until 25? - 02/06/2010 12:32:14 AM 1494 Views
It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 01:06:32 AM 871 Views
Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 01:50:49 AM 872 Views
Re: It's a huge honor to be a sul'dam, and they test for that on the same day - 02/06/2010 05:53:14 AM 854 Views
A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 01:11:12 AM 867 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 02/06/2010 02:31:08 AM 876 Views
Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 03/06/2010 03:32:44 AM 869 Views
Re: Wasn't talking about breeding damane - 04/06/2010 07:30:55 PM 736 Views
Well, it took centuries for most people to understand breeding/genetics - 02/06/2010 08:57:43 PM 711 Views
Nobody knows about Sul'dam because it takes them extra long to learn. - 03/06/2010 07:58:41 AM 1013 Views
Re: A few details to consider - 04/06/2010 07:33:39 AM 733 Views
I think it's seen as something that happens to other people. - 02/06/2010 02:20:09 AM 741 Views
I think they retest only the sul'dam - 02/06/2010 04:13:55 AM 912 Views
Re: I think they retest only the sul'dam - 04/06/2010 07:55:56 PM 704 Views
Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:15:26 AM 680 Views
Re: Point on the testing - 08/06/2010 02:46:06 PM 745 Views
Remember, Seancean have no idea channeling can be "learned" - 02/06/2010 07:04:11 AM 808 Views
This is how Damane and Sul'Dam are determined, straight from tGH - 03/06/2010 08:14:03 AM 1150 Views
That doesn't make sense. Are you sure they don't put the BRACELET on the girls, not the collar? - 04/06/2010 01:35:08 AM 698 Views
I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 03:09:08 AM 769 Views
Re: I am absolutely sure. Quote from book. - 04/06/2010 11:54:25 AM 607 Views
Thanks Darius *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:48:28 AM 378 Views
Toun, though too young can be collared - 06/06/2010 03:29:29 AM 601 Views
I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 03:39:16 AM 750 Views
Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:04:33 AM 640 Views
Re: Everything points to a change in policy - 06/06/2010 04:18:21 AM 533 Views
Re: I don't think Tuon will ever Channel - 06/06/2010 05:07:40 AM 654 Views
Not at all - 02/06/2010 03:52:31 PM 619 Views
Re: Are the new damane actually tortured? - 02/06/2010 06:56:10 PM 774 Views
I think "tortured" is relative... - 03/06/2010 08:22:37 AM 710 Views
As with most things in Jordan's universe, I don't think it was thought through very seriously. - 03/06/2010 08:05:04 PM 655 Views
Huh? - 03/06/2010 08:44:35 PM 753 Views
Sure - 03/06/2010 09:00:40 PM 761 Views
Bah... - 03/06/2010 09:51:09 PM 710 Views
Jordan definitely made mistakes with the Ajahs. In particular, the Black Ajah ones who fled. - 03/06/2010 10:56:39 PM 700 Views
oh come now - 04/06/2010 12:58:44 AM 623 Views
Re: Sure - 04/06/2010 04:55:23 AM 801 Views
I don't know if that's totally true - 04/06/2010 12:09:29 PM 629 Views
Maybe you don't read that much serious literature? I just don't see why you are arguing this. - 04/06/2010 03:47:50 PM 665 Views
I actually don't read much fiction at all to be honest - 04/06/2010 04:00:03 PM 686 Views
You're right about the fact that I have mostly contempt for Jordan. - 04/06/2010 05:42:49 PM 652 Views
meh. I prefer non-fiction most of the time - 06/06/2010 03:44:38 AM 703 Views
I have read lots of fiction - 06/06/2010 03:57:07 AM 695 Views
Meh - 04/06/2010 05:03:41 PM 685 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that - 06/06/2010 03:49:48 AM 688 Views
We've seen so little of the old tongue how can you tell? - 06/06/2010 03:33:46 AM 547 Views
This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:13:25 AM 611 Views
Re: This raises another question - 06/06/2010 04:53:42 AM 660 Views

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