But that begs the question why is Hawkwing's sword found in a scabbard with the red and gold dragon?
Nobody called the creature on Rand's arms, or on the Dragon Banner, a dragon.
Nobody used the name, but Moiraine recognized the banner of LTT by the creature on it for what it was the second she saw it.
Whether the creature is known as Dragon or not is immaterial. In educated circles (and Hawkwing was such, and knew the prophecies well), people know the red-and-gold creature like a serpent with legs was the sigil of Lews Therin in the War of Shadow. The Kinslayer - not at all a person you want to be associated with, unless you are a false dragon. So the question remains the same: why would Arthur Hawking put the symbol of the Kinslayer on his scabbard? He spent several years actually bringing down a false dragon who wrecked half the world before he was stopped, then the aftermath of this capture brought war and woes for years before Hawkwing brought it back to peace, conquering or getting allegiance from everyone - what could have possessed the man to use the symbol of the Kinslayer himself?
I don't see a logical reason myself. If anything Hawkwing is the antithesis of a 'dragonsworn'.
Now, if that scabbard had a the golden hawk on blue, we'd be getting somewhere. But it hasn't.
Half the world is under Rand's protection now, and half the world is under Tuon, who has organized her half quickly and efficiently. The two should be 'as one' before the Last Battle. This is perhaps what the distorted story from the fourth age is about, not Rand having Justice, Rand and the Seanchan as protectors of the Light. Or, for all we know, the legends of the Dragon and Hawkwing with justice have been merged by that point - notice it has already distorted LTT's titles - not Prince of Dawn/Lord of the Morning, but Lord of the Dawn, and how Hawkwing's sword Justice is transformed into the sword of justice.
This message last edited by Aginor7 on 07/09/2009 at 01:14:14 AM
spoilers from first chapter and a question
05/09/2009 04:55:30 AM
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It was probably from his time in Rhuidean in the glass pillars *NM*
05/09/2009 04:57:58 AM
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That was my first thought too, though I can't think where the Aiel would encounter it *NM*
05/09/2009 05:05:13 AM
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I couldn't say which of the scenes it would be, but it's the only place I could imagine it being
05/09/2009 05:11:22 AM
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I assumed he remembered it because it was Lews Therin's *NM*
05/09/2009 05:18:39 AM
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But he specifically says that it is from his memories and not Lews Therin's *NM*
05/09/2009 05:20:29 AM
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Was it just the scabbard or a new sword too? *NM*
05/09/2009 05:30:11 AM
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Good question, I'm not sure, tho if I had to guess I'd say just the scabbard *NM*
05/09/2009 05:33:08 AM
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So think the scabbard is an angreal/ter'angreal? *NM*
05/09/2009 06:15:45 AM
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God I hope not, they are entirely too common. *NM*
05/09/2009 06:21:28 AM
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It must be...
07/09/2009 04:37:59 AM
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My thoughts on the PoV character
05/09/2009 05:42:42 AM
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Re: spoilers from first chapter and a question
05/09/2009 06:27:49 AM
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I'd bet it's answered in the prologue. *NM*
05/09/2009 06:28:47 AM
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My thoughts exactly. The sword is the only part that makes sense as coming from the Prologue. *NM*
06/09/2009 12:09:39 PM
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Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard
05/09/2009 08:07:10 AM
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Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard
05/09/2009 11:03:54 AM
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Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard
05/09/2009 11:55:30 PM
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How about something simpler?
05/09/2009 05:16:09 PM
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Re: How about something simpler?
05/09/2009 11:42:01 PM
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Re: How about something simpler?
08/09/2009 06:25:49 PM
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Re: How about something simpler?
08/09/2009 11:22:06 PM
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It's in the Prophecy. Hawking's sword Justice.
06/09/2009 12:37:13 AM
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I like that a lot. Seems the most likely out of all of these, too.
06/09/2009 05:24:08 AM
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I think you might be correct.
06/09/2009 07:45:17 AM
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They don't know it's a dragon
06/09/2009 10:19:11 AM
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It doesn't really matter
07/09/2009 01:09:38 AM
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I thought the great sword means it is a very long two-handed sword.
07/09/2009 01:35:32 AM
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