Dangerous toughs on the street corners. "OH, where are the Aes Sedai?"
What the heck was that? Who was supposed to have expressed that view? The omniscient narrator who is introducing the setting to us?
The "magnificent" White Tower. Magnificent in whose opinion? The narrator's? Too over the top for the neutral point of view that is supposedly describing this setting for us.
I also picked up a "hadn't" in that descriptive narrative about the Tower. RJ would certainly not have used that term, but would instead have used "had not." It just is not formal enough for the reserved voice that is supposed to be setting the scene for us.
There are little things that stand out as clear problems in the writing style. Still, it's better than no Wot at all, I guess.
Regarding the meat of the chapter:
Strange that Rand thought about Graendal all of a sudden, out of the blue, while she's never been in his thoughts as much as Demandred. Maybe the whole story Semirhage told him about Graendal's madman theory is bugging him. Unconsciously he may be hoping she (Graendal) has some means of healing his madness?
Who knows. Anyway, to me Rand has become less of an enjoyable protagonist as the series has moved along. It's ironic really. I was irritated by him in the early books, urging him to develop. I loved him in Books 4-6, with LoC being the culmination of his growth in to a "man".
But from 7-11 he seems to have slid down the other edge, and is becoming a lunatic now. Ah well, hopefully he provides some entertainment along the way.
Regarding the Forsaken. Is it coincidence that Graendal and Asmodean are mentioned in the same chapter, right at the start? Another hint at the solution to the great question, I reckon.
Also, it seems Graendal might be foreshadowed as a prominent player in this book. Which, if true, delays Demandred's appearance on center stage for yet another book.
Looks like the best is being saved for last, yet again.
What the heck was that? Who was supposed to have expressed that view? The omniscient narrator who is introducing the setting to us?
The "magnificent" White Tower. Magnificent in whose opinion? The narrator's? Too over the top for the neutral point of view that is supposedly describing this setting for us.
I also picked up a "hadn't" in that descriptive narrative about the Tower. RJ would certainly not have used that term, but would instead have used "had not." It just is not formal enough for the reserved voice that is supposed to be setting the scene for us.
There are little things that stand out as clear problems in the writing style. Still, it's better than no Wot at all, I guess.
Regarding the meat of the chapter:
Strange that Rand thought about Graendal all of a sudden, out of the blue, while she's never been in his thoughts as much as Demandred. Maybe the whole story Semirhage told him about Graendal's madman theory is bugging him. Unconsciously he may be hoping she (Graendal) has some means of healing his madness?
Who knows. Anyway, to me Rand has become less of an enjoyable protagonist as the series has moved along. It's ironic really. I was irritated by him in the early books, urging him to develop. I loved him in Books 4-6, with LoC being the culmination of his growth in to a "man".
But from 7-11 he seems to have slid down the other edge, and is becoming a lunatic now. Ah well, hopefully he provides some entertainment along the way.
Regarding the Forsaken. Is it coincidence that Graendal and Asmodean are mentioned in the same chapter, right at the start? Another hint at the solution to the great question, I reckon.
Also, it seems Graendal might be foreshadowed as a prominent player in this book. Which, if true, delays Demandred's appearance on center stage for yet another book.
Looks like the best is being saved for last, yet again.
I agree with you regarding your criticism of the initial description. I said 'WTF!' several times during the intro - something about it felt awfully wrong. I also didn't like the White Tower being referred to as a 'nail'... I can't imagine RJ ever thinking that. Certain phrases are such wrong, such as Rand thinking of his hand as 'saidar-healed'... he's been healed many times, it just doesn't fit the scene because it implies something new and wondrous.
Bah ... anyway... I think this book is about Graendal, and it's no surprise he thought of her. Arad Doman - Graendal - he clearly says he remembered what Asmodean told him about her. It also fits in with Lews Therin's ideas on the Forsaken.
Demandred is obviously saved for the last battle - I don't think that's surprising at all. Who else is going to command the Shadow armies... Aran'gar?
My problem is that the voices of the characters themselves did not come across strongly enough. Instead, it sometimes sounded like Sanderson "speaking through" the characters in order to impart some information. Like the offhand way Rand thought about Alivia being stronger than Nynaeve. It just felt artificial in the way it was communicated.
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Your thoughts on TGS - Chapter 1
05/09/2009 05:23:47 PM
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For all of those whining about it not sounding like RJ:
05/09/2009 05:47:07 PM
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You're forgetting one thing.
06/09/2009 12:13:03 AM
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And if he were to off Egwene? What would your opinion be? *NM*
07/09/2009 05:38:36 AM
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He dislikes Sanderson's prose. Plot content is irrelevant here. *NM*
08/09/2009 06:44:42 PM
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Pretty good.
05/09/2009 07:35:41 PM
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Re: Pretty good.
05/09/2009 09:13:44 PM
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I found it well-written, but rather uninteresting story-wise *NM*
05/09/2009 08:04:15 PM
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because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
05/09/2009 08:29:18 PM
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I'm tired of passive story telling.
05/09/2009 08:57:13 PM
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I'm tired of mindless readers
06/09/2009 01:54:14 AM
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Re: I'm tired of mindless readers
06/09/2009 04:01:56 AM
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I was over critical.
06/09/2009 04:56:48 AM
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A real analyst or literary critic would laugh his ass off to see this...
06/09/2009 06:51:57 AM
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Re: because there should totaly be massive plot development in the first chapter
06/09/2009 01:22:09 AM
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A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
05/09/2009 09:34:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
05/09/2009 10:03:59 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 03:18:41 AM
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I think Lews Therin's comments to Rand were the most hugely significant part of the chapter.
06/09/2009 01:15:05 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 02:52:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 07:08:08 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
06/09/2009 10:31:20 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
07/09/2009 05:09:38 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
08/09/2009 10:19:13 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
10/09/2009 06:20:56 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
08/09/2009 11:46:44 PM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
07/09/2009 04:41:47 AM
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Re: A few things that drew my attention... (this is long and rambling...spoilers)
09/09/2009 03:48:53 PM
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Good post, but I have an alternative explanation for the saidin barrier
28/09/2009 12:53:41 AM
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Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 12:02:13 AM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 05:12:25 PM
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Re: Robert Jordon vs Brandon Sanderson
06/09/2009 07:20:45 PM
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I found it...interesting --spoilers--
06/09/2009 01:33:11 AM
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I liked it
06/09/2009 07:58:09 AM
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Some questions...
06/09/2009 08:04:30 AM
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Theory: Rand and Egwene. What is up?
06/09/2009 07:59:58 AM
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A simpler answer
06/09/2009 03:04:04 PM
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Really?
06/09/2009 03:38:59 PM
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Look at what he has seen...
06/09/2009 11:45:44 PM
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And all this happeened in the few days between the end of KoD and the beginning of tGS?
07/09/2009 12:35:29 AM
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Why not? How often did he think of Egwene in A Plain Wooden Box? It might have been there already
07/09/2009 05:29:27 AM
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She treated him like a pawn when she "passed" him over to Elayne way back. NM *NM*
07/09/2009 02:49:18 PM
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are we already at the location of the book cover?
06/09/2009 11:49:06 AM
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Two Things
07/09/2009 12:25:31 AM
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My thoughts are that the main page is being crowded by too many duplicate threads
07/09/2009 10:23:41 PM
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I know why Rand is mad at Egwene...read inside to find out
11/09/2009 03:15:00 AM
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Ummm... the embassy's proposal was accepted, and (presumably) communicated to Egwene at the earliest *NM*
11/09/2009 04:16:31 AM
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Semirhage isn't scaring anyone
28/09/2009 02:32:34 PM
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Indeed...
28/09/2009 03:36:55 PM
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Will the Chosen pass that edict down or just not act themselves?
28/09/2009 10:29:53 PM
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