Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
"Don't be petty. Just because I spread around lies that you raised and supported world-shattering abominations and international criminals in an effort to turn your Sisters against you is no reason to deny that I am the solution to all the White bTower's problems."
And you are also claiming that Pevara is the pettiest Aes Sedai in the Red Ajah? Seriously?
We've had plenty of passages indicating that the Reds were offended by this defamatory propaganda, as obviously they should.
And you are also claiming that Pevara is the pettiest Aes Sedai in the Red Ajah? Seriously?
We've had plenty of passages indicating that the Reds were offended by this defamatory propaganda, as obviously they should.
It's easily possible that the Reds are keeping their mouths shut because there have been instances where FDs were set up by less scrupulous Sisters of the Red ... not to mention the fact that the Black had a massive foothold in the Ajah. If it hasn't already, it's certain to come out soon that there was a greater proportion of Blacks in the Red than any other Ajah AND that the Ajah Head herself was Black! Who is to say that even Reds aren't starting to believe Siuan's lies? Given the situation it's certainly a plausible story.
It will be interesting to see if Javindrha ever returns from the Black Tower since she was named as one of the ring-leaders by Logain (and thus Siuan).
All the Red Sisters in the Tower are following that policy of ignoring the rebel propaganda, in order for your wild guessing to be accurate, you'd have all these Sisters know about it, but not Pevara, a Sitter for the Red Ajah!Pevara, whom we know not to be Black Ajah and to be bouynd by the Oath against lying clearly called it a lie.
The facts are against you.
As I recall there was a supposed plot for Black Sisters to help Taim escape and make him a terror on the world ... given that there would be a 100% chance of a Red in any group of Sisters sent after a FD and the fact that a much larger proportion of Reds are Blacks and that the woman likely to pick the Red who would lead the expedition was Black (Galina) it's pretty easy to conclude that some Reds have been involved with raising FD in the past.
However, I do not imply that Logain was in anyway supported by the Red (or the Black) ... just that it's possible that in the history of the Tower that other FDs had in fact been set up by Reds.
The point is that it's possible Reds like Pevaara give this no credence because she finds it abhorrent, and in true AS fashion assumes if she believes it to be false that it MUST be false.
But what about Katerine Alruddin? She'd do it in a second. Run of the mill Reds aren't blind either, it's possible that some few suspect a woman like Katerine would not be above this action and thus are keeping their mouths shut because they know that there are more than a few women of their Ajah who could have been part of such a plot, and any of the Blacks in the Red would realize it could be a BA plot.
I'm not making wild guesses, merely offering a plausible (IMO) rationale for some Reds to keep their mouths shut on the matter.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Character discussion 2 : Siuan Sanche and Leane Sharif
09/05/2010 06:01:33 PM
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The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
09/05/2010 07:07:09 PM
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That's total nonsense...
10/05/2010 08:34:08 AM
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No, THAT's total nonsense...
10/05/2010 09:27:41 AM
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You seem to deal in bad analogies...
10/05/2010 05:14:47 PM
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You've got an irritating manner about you. No wonder you find Aes Sedai so believable.
10/05/2010 05:53:00 PM
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Hello Pot. I'm Kettle.
10/05/2010 06:41:58 PM
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Hello Kettle. I'm Frying pan *NM*
11/05/2010 03:43:20 PM
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Hello Frying pan. I'm Skillet. *NM*
12/05/2010 11:50:33 PM
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Re: Hello Skillet, I'm a baking sheet can't we all have some cookies and get along? *NM*
17/05/2010 05:17:24 PM
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All of those people EARNED their positions by being the best, not a compromise candidate for office!
12/05/2010 04:36:36 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
12/05/2010 04:23:07 AM
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Re: The "Shrinking of Siuan" after stilling destroyed my initial awe for the Amyrlin positition...
12/05/2010 06:33:37 AM
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They deserved to be deposed and stilled, I think ...
10/05/2010 02:47:35 PM
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"They"?
10/05/2010 05:16:54 PM
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Good point ...
10/05/2010 06:45:52 PM
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I don't know if I agree with this
11/05/2010 03:19:20 PM
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I like Leane, and respected Siuan until RJ mauled her character
10/05/2010 05:55:08 PM
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She was probably the sacrificial lamb in place of Moiraine
10/05/2010 06:25:39 PM
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The deck was certainly stacked against Siuan from the very beginning
11/05/2010 02:44:05 PM
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This is a main reason I hope Siuan and Leanne get their full strength restored
11/05/2010 02:25:31 PM
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I don't really agree
11/05/2010 05:35:44 PM
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I see your point and like I said, I think there are certainly other resolutions to the story line
11/05/2010 06:22:44 PM
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I'm still annoyed that Siuan is not going to face the consequences of lying about the Reds.
12/05/2010 05:18:47 AM
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In Egwene's defense, it would be hypocritical of her to bring that up after profiting from it
12/05/2010 05:59:57 AM
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Oh, I never expected Egwene to do something about this.
12/05/2010 06:12:35 AM
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Well she's off forging a relationship with the Asha'man - you know, useful stuff? *NM*
12/05/2010 06:39:04 AM
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Are you claiming that Pevara was the only woman in the entire Red Ajah to be offended by that lie? *NM*
12/05/2010 07:15:40 AM
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The Reds aren't petty
12/05/2010 04:52:50 PM
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Are you kidding?
12/05/2010 06:14:46 PM
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Unless of course there is truth to it
17/05/2010 01:50:27 PM
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There is none.
17/05/2010 07:09:59 PM
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Uhhh?
17/05/2010 08:45:15 PM
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...
17/05/2010 11:08:05 PM
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Re: ...
18/05/2010 05:25:33 AM
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Seriously, are you kidding? [EDIT]
18/05/2010 06:06:01 AM
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*sigh*
18/05/2010 12:30:43 PM
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So, you're not kidding.
18/05/2010 09:12:27 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
18/05/2010 10:25:19 PM
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Re: So, you're not kidding.
19/05/2010 12:41:09 AM
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On the minority thing...
18/05/2010 04:26:15 PM
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That's exactly the problem.
18/05/2010 08:51:45 PM
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Really do you have a quote supporting the fact that there has never been a FD supported by a Red?
18/05/2010 09:39:31 PM
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Of course..., I'll provide it as soon as you prove you're not a Nazi serial child rapist.
18/05/2010 10:06:23 PM
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why so pissy?
19/05/2010 03:34:22 PM
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Sorry.
20/05/2010 04:16:43 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 08:19:13 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 08:33:54 AM
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Re: Sorry.
20/05/2010 01:26:47 PM
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Interesting.
20/05/2010 07:34:45 PM
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Re: Interesting.
21/05/2010 05:07:07 AM
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No worries! I was just caught off guard by your response... sorry for your stress! *NM*
20/05/2010 10:04:35 PM
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There may be one explanation...
13/05/2010 10:04:46 PM
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That doesn't make sense.
13/05/2010 10:54:53 PM
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it was about more than just male channelers
18/05/2010 09:50:14 PM
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Yes, that's true.
18/05/2010 10:07:22 PM
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I'm also certain the majority of the Red had no clue/involvement
20/05/2010 10:24:54 PM
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That's also true.
20/05/2010 10:29:11 PM
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Okay I'm leaving you alone ... you clearly don't want to continue
20/05/2010 10:31:01 PM
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AS shrunk after stilling; Siuan and Leane became huge.
12/05/2010 10:50:50 PM
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No, I don't think so
13/05/2010 05:10:03 AM
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