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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1938 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1259 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 523 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 516 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1072 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1233 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3738 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 966 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1027 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1142 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1255 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 992 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1132 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1159 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1066 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 541 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1037 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 509 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 510 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2098 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1031 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1716 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 989 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 545 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1013 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1099 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1038 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1093 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1173 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 965 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1028 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1355 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1084 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1028 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1050 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1016 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 968 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 1004 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1057 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1066 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 906 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1015 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1032 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1012 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 955 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 956 Views
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