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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
There's that whole thing about the Book of Somethingorother. Book of Changes?

Anyways, it seems they've discussed leaving the universe of the Westlands for another. I'm guessing for their own original, home universe.

A quick hypothesis on the Ogier.

During the Age of Legends, people visited other Universes, including the Finns and the Ogier. They found the Ogier friendly, and welcomed them. The Ogier react negatively to the One Power over time, and so need the stedding, which the Aes Sedai created for them to be able to stay. I'm guessing the Ogier leave after the end of A Memory of Light.
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The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL saidarisnowtainted - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM 1933 Views
there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis. damookster - 06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM 1248 Views
Spread the word Brother Mook! *NM* krassos - 06/05/2010 05:53:13 PM 518 Views
+1 *NM* Jim - 07/05/2010 05:41:20 AM 512 Views
There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them. FanEditor10 - 12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1065 Views
I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn... krassos - 12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM 1221 Views
They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes. FanEditor10 - 16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM 3727 Views
seriously? damookster - 17/05/2010 01:03:09 AM 957 Views
The Jenn didn't fail the Aes Sedai. krassos - 17/05/2010 04:06:47 PM 1019 Views
it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf Jim - 19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM 1128 Views
FYI, more likely to be Perrin, IMO newyorkersedai - 13/05/2010 02:06:49 AM 1246 Views
because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan? damookster - 13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM 981 Views
I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial bobsledai - 06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM 1126 Views
Yeah, RJ said this even Etzel - 06/05/2010 11:54:23 AM 1153 Views
I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM 1058 Views
This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM* Marshall - 10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM 538 Views
The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM 1028 Views
LOL *NM* GateKeeper - 06/05/2010 05:37:32 PM 506 Views
Must be Mister Mister playing on the radio or stero *NM* echooff - 06/05/2010 08:12:36 PM 506 Views
According To The Big Book Of Bad Art ClubCaved - 07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM 2090 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art Gaidal Craig - 08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM 1021 Views
Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art File Leader - 09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM 1709 Views
Nonsense. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 04:10:30 AM 980 Views
I think you just found the answer to the Last Battle... *NM* The Count - 09/05/2010 06:12:56 PM 541 Views
Elayne might be able to do it this way.... Mjolner - 10/05/2010 03:55:14 AM 1005 Views
--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... Tweak - 08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM 1088 Views
Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence ..... saidarisnowtainted - 10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM 1030 Views
How is there "No Song?" newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM 1085 Views
Re: How is there "No Song?" Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM 1166 Views
Oh, ok. But... newyorkersedai - 09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM 958 Views
If we want to talk about flashbacks... damookster - 09/05/2010 05:22:34 PM 1019 Views
In addition: The Jenn Aiel had their own paradise construct. krassos - 09/05/2010 06:12:40 PM 1347 Views
I doubt it. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM 1072 Views
LTT asked it because he was bonkers newyorkersedai - 10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM 1022 Views
I agree. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM 1042 Views
That's not how his insanity was portrayed. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM 1008 Views
If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing? Mjolner - 11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM 961 Views
From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM 995 Views
I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM 1042 Views
My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think? Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM 1056 Views
The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Mjolner - 11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM 896 Views
Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel. Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM 1008 Views
Thx for the support, Mjolnir, but I don't agree because newyorkersedai - 12/05/2010 04:17:52 AM 1026 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 11/05/2010 03:36:34 AM 1006 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 11/05/2010 05:12:35 AM 948 Views
I agree RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/05/2010 02:55:54 PM 950 Views
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