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Re: cool people change the subject line Datakim Send a noteboard - 04/05/2010 06:43:01 AM
See what I did there ^^


Though it is certainly possible that Rand will have less and less control over his body and mind as time goes on, there is absolutely nothing to indicate at the moment that he'll lose the ability to channel. He had a hard time with it before Dragonmount simply because of his psychological issues around Lews Therin. Of course, the sickness doesn't make it pleasant, but it doesn't actually prevent him from using the Power.


I don't think we know for sure what precise mechanism is causing Rand to get sick, but it seems probable to me that it is his link with Moridin that is causing the problem. And that link will not have gone away just because Rand regained his sanity and "merged" with LTT.

Yes, LTT did bring his own problem with the risk that he would grasp the power from Rand and use it himself, and that problem has been solved. But the physical dizziness and nausea which Rand suffers from will likely still be there, and getting worse until the link issue is solved.

The sickness does not prevent Rand from channeling that is true, but it does prevent him from using the power to react to unexpected situations. He needs to be able to know that he needs it in advantage, so he can take hold of the power and ride out the sickness first in preparation.

Look at what happened when he tried to channel at the end of TGS. The sickness came so strongly that he collapsed to the ground from the dizziness and became sick due to nausea. In those moments when he was on the ground he was pretty helpless. If Gawyn were to suddenly and unexpectedly attack him, he would be pretty screwed since Gawyn would likely kill him before he could recover enough to do anything.


*snip judas*

How perfect is that?


It is possible, but like I said I don't really see it as necessary. Though I admit that Gawyn does not know about Rand's sickness or link with Moridin and as such might want to get his hands on the medallion anyway. We readers would know that he could have done without though.


It doesn't really presume he's alone. Rand might allow for a proper, honorable duel. Also, Rand need not be aware of the fact that Gawyn is wearing the medallion, so he might well be counting on the Power as a backup in case Gawyn can beat him with the sword (which seems likely, as Rand just lost a hand). And if he doesn't know, no one with him will either, and no one will have cause to fear for Rand's death.


Maybe. I would hope that the new improved sane Rand which we will hopefully get after the whole LTT-merger will be smart enough to realise that risking his life (and therefore the entire freaking universe) by dueling some random moron like Gawyn while crippled by both the loss of his hand and the saidin-sickness would be a really REALLY bad idea.

Besides, you could argue that even agreeing to such a duel might imply that Gawyn has a legitimate grievance, which is not true and not something Rand would want to imply. If there is time to talk and issue challenges, then I would expect that Rand would just tell Gawyn that it was Rahvin who killed his mother and about the compulsion and everything. And if Gawyn was so utterly stupid not to check the truth of that with Elayne first and still insisted on a duel, then I doubt Rand would agree to the fight.


It could also be that those who are guarding Rand are simply those who would be reluctant to kill Gawyn - Andorans. Rand might have the Maidens guarding Elayne, for example.


Whenever he has had guards, they have usually been maidens. I doubt he would replace them with Andorans due to the whole aiel-honor thing at this point.

And what about channelers? Nynaeve for instance has been on Rand's side pretty much constantly in the last books. If she was with Rand while he was totally insane like he was in TGS, then I would expect her to stay now that Rand is better and saner too.


I really doubt that Rand will try to use the Power on Gawyn when Gawyn has nothing but a sword. Unless, of course, he sees that Gawyn is about to kill him. A really bad time to discover that Gawyn is protected.


On the other hand, Gawyn would likely make it clear with his words how ignorant he is of everything. I could very well see Rand trying to tie Gawyn up with Air so he could explain to him about Rahvin and about how stupid Gawyn is being by trying to kill the one person that is required to win against the DO. And ofcourse when that did not work, Rand who knows about the medallion and other such ter'angreal would then be ready with indirect weaves.

And if not, Nynaeve or some other AS probably would since they would not want the fight to happen due to the risk to Rand. And upon seeing that the power does not work they could warn Rand who would then be prepared with indirect attacks (which he knows work since he saw Rahvin's attack work on Mat).


Rand prevents that by killing Gawyn at the same time that Gawyn kills him (which is how the legend goes, you know). Once he's dead, he can't be balefired.


I suppose that might conveniently happen. Though if Cadsuane is around she would probably try to zap Gawyn before he perishes. If Rand takes out Gawyn by stabbing him while Gawyn returns the favor, there would be a few moments before the blood loss kills Gawyn afterall. Moments where he could still be zapped.

I wonder if the medallion protects against balefire. Is that a direct weave, or an indirect attack similar to Rahvin's lightning.
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