He, Beslan being Berelain's man in white was a most brilliant theory!
Etzel Send a noteboard - 03/05/2010 01:55:07 PM

In my view your idea that Min's Viewing about Alivia helping Rand to die is fulfilled by letting herself killed by Seanchan, so that Gawyn can take Mat's medallion from her - which Alivia for some reason will get from Elayne, who for some reason got it from Mat, because apparently both don't need it (but why would Gawyn take it then anyway? he doesn't know that it stops channeling) - and go on to kill Rand (who has no other guards around?) is simply too far-fetched for me. Min's Viewing clearly implies a more direct help from Alivia in Rand's death, IMO.
That then Nynaeve also has to rip out Rand from TAR seems highly unlikely as well, because it seems - like in Birgitte's case - to be a short-circuiting of the Pattern, which isn't supposed to happen. If the Dragon is needed, he is spun out.
Also, as said, the Heroes waiting in TAR are dead (even if not as dead as others), while a Hero, who is ripped out of TAR, is alive. Thus, Rand wouldn't be alive and dead at the same time, but first dead and then alive.
But there is of course the possibility that the Aelfinn's prophecied "death" would be fulfilled if Rand e.g. just has to be in a deep coma so that he appears to be dead to others, while he is actually still alive. The Prophecies are often not completely literal, e.g. Rand wasn't literally blind as the end Prophecy of TGS.
That then Nynaeve also has to rip out Rand from TAR seems highly unlikely as well, because it seems - like in Birgitte's case - to be a short-circuiting of the Pattern, which isn't supposed to happen. If the Dragon is needed, he is spun out.
Also, as said, the Heroes waiting in TAR are dead (even if not as dead as others), while a Hero, who is ripped out of TAR, is alive. Thus, Rand wouldn't be alive and dead at the same time, but first dead and then alive.
But there is of course the possibility that the Aelfinn's prophecied "death" would be fulfilled if Rand e.g. just has to be in a deep coma so that he appears to be dead to others, while he is actually still alive. The Prophecies are often not completely literal, e.g. Rand wasn't literally blind as the end Prophecy of TGS.
My new 'loony' theory
03/05/2010 11:09:52 AM
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Hehe, yeah, we can also discuss it here...
03/05/2010 12:04:57 PM
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Good deal. You're still being prejudiced, though.
03/05/2010 12:20:00 PM
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Of course, I prefer my theory....
03/05/2010 01:01:07 PM
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I suppose it's better than Beslan
03/05/2010 01:19:52 PM
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He, Beslan being Berelain's man in white was a most brilliant theory!
03/05/2010 01:55:07 PM
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See, this is why I am right and you are wrong!
04/05/2010 03:56:31 AM
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In my view
04/05/2010 10:07:02 AM
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Still prejudiced, of course...
04/05/2010 10:24:53 AM
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Just disagreeing
04/05/2010 11:15:44 AM
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And repeating yourself. But I have evidence.
04/05/2010 12:24:06 PM
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Well...
04/05/2010 01:10:17 PM
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This is getting silly
04/05/2010 01:27:56 PM
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Yeah, I think as well that we have sufficiently exchanged our views on this matter!
*NM*
04/05/2010 02:18:09 PM
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Re: My new 'loony' theory
03/05/2010 04:27:12 PM
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cool people change the subject line
04/05/2010 04:14:18 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
04/05/2010 06:43:01 AM
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Re: cool people change the subject line
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Re: cool people change the subject line
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Re: cool people change the subject line
04/05/2010 09:27:51 AM
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I dont claim to be but didnt you say cool people change the subject line?
05/05/2010 02:41:49 AM
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Yes. What of it? *NM*
05/05/2010 03:22:34 AM
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now you're a cool kid again?
*NM*
05/05/2010 03:23:49 AM
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It was originally a comment on those who normally dwell here (and also did at Wotmania of course) *NM*
05/05/2010 03:25:17 AM
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Re: My new 'loony' theory
04/05/2010 04:44:28 AM
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what comments by Brandon, and what flaws?
04/05/2010 04:49:29 AM
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Gawyn promised not to raise a hand against Rand
06/05/2010 12:59:47 AM
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Indeed he did.
06/05/2010 07:23:44 AM
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But...
06/05/2010 08:52:04 AM
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Just because it makes more sense to you doesn't make it more likely. I have evidence!
06/05/2010 09:57:52 AM
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Well...
06/05/2010 11:12:42 AM
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*sigh*
06/05/2010 01:41:03 PM
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I'm still hoping to dissuade you from this crazy idea!
06/05/2010 02:07:54 PM
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You won't.
06/05/2010 02:11:42 PM
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Gawyn agreed that he would talk with Elayne about this topic
06/05/2010 02:32:55 PM
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Nice theory ...
07/05/2010 06:25:29 PM
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Take two
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Re: Take two
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Re: Take two
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