We gotta remember that this series was supposed to be much shorter. Since all of the Chosen were "good" at some point, important people and pillars of the community, their flaws are well-remembered. This also highlights their respective personalities, and why they'd sell out *the whole world* for power. In a 3-4 book series, you don't need to do a lot more with the persona of 13 big bads.
Sadly, Jordan gives us far less info than we'd like on the Age of Legends - the time, the people, its technology. For him, the focus of the series was the present time and a small set of characters, most of whom were from a tiny village.
He said the origin of the book was partly homage to JRR Tolkien, to establish a point from which his adventure would diverge. Since the series became massive, he couldn't leave the 2nd tier villains out altogether, could he? But he either didn't find them necessary or interesting often enough to really give some of us what we wanted from them.
I think this makes a lot more sense given how the series expanded. RJ apparently set the series length at 3, then 4, then 6 before it became ?? And in those matters, Jordan is skilled and thoughtful, and worked hard at his profession. So I can't chastise the good author, even if I wish things were a little different (or perhaps more clear?).
Also, I'm pretty sure that our heroes haven't really been in the hands of the FS very often. Gloating is a villain thing - a minute and a half of it is a problem, but ten seconds makes sense.
Considering moments that could've led to a major Lightside death: Belal's calendar must've been too busy for him to meet the Wonder Girls right away; he tried to get Rand to release Calandoor before killing him. Semi didn't know who Mat was, and BalthaGar tried to channel him to death, but he was somehow completely protected! Ishy plays games with Rand twice, then goes for the throat right away - "when I'm done with my evil speech I will TAKE YOUR SOUL." And then he started to. The Gar's V1.0 were fresh out of their prison and rather messed up. Lanfear is a naughty girl and she wants her dreamboat. Moggy played the spy game in a Tanchico hotel before she fought Nynaeve to a standstill - after nearly getting vaporized, Moggy ran.
Sadly, Jordan gives us far less info than we'd like on the Age of Legends - the time, the people, its technology. For him, the focus of the series was the present time and a small set of characters, most of whom were from a tiny village.
He said the origin of the book was partly homage to JRR Tolkien, to establish a point from which his adventure would diverge. Since the series became massive, he couldn't leave the 2nd tier villains out altogether, could he? But he either didn't find them necessary or interesting often enough to really give some of us what we wanted from them.
I think this makes a lot more sense given how the series expanded. RJ apparently set the series length at 3, then 4, then 6 before it became ?? And in those matters, Jordan is skilled and thoughtful, and worked hard at his profession. So I can't chastise the good author, even if I wish things were a little different (or perhaps more clear?).
Also, I'm pretty sure that our heroes haven't really been in the hands of the FS very often. Gloating is a villain thing - a minute and a half of it is a problem, but ten seconds makes sense.
Considering moments that could've led to a major Lightside death: Belal's calendar must've been too busy for him to meet the Wonder Girls right away; he tried to get Rand to release Calandoor before killing him. Semi didn't know who Mat was, and BalthaGar tried to channel him to death, but he was somehow completely protected! Ishy plays games with Rand twice, then goes for the throat right away - "when I'm done with my evil speech I will TAKE YOUR SOUL." And then he started to. The Gar's V1.0 were fresh out of their prison and rather messed up. Lanfear is a naughty girl and she wants her dreamboat. Moggy played the spy game in a Tanchico hotel before she fought Nynaeve to a standstill - after nearly getting vaporized, Moggy ran.
Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
29/04/2010 07:09:22 AM
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Sammael?
29/04/2010 08:07:24 AM
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Sincerest apologies, the post should've been a reply...
29/04/2010 06:52:23 PM
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Don't sweat it. It's not like we're overflowing with threads and need to cut down on the clutter. *NM*
30/04/2010 01:52:37 AM
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Posting a reply at the bottom of a long thread is a good way for your points to be overlooked. *NM*
30/04/2010 01:51:55 AM
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Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 02:48:47 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 05:04:56 PM
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Re: Nope, they deserve their bad rap for being Typical Villains of the Week including Gimmicks
29/04/2010 06:05:40 PM
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Sorry - vanished-portal-deaths are like "Dead! His car fell in the river; we never found the body.." *NM*
29/04/2010 07:28:40 PM
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I was hoping the melting gateway meant they were burned out of existence at first. *NM*
29/04/2010 08:10:16 PM
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Jordan didn't care in a 4 book series!
29/04/2010 07:24:24 PM
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Name one bit of good nature to any of the AoL lives of the Forsaken.
30/04/2010 01:49:53 AM
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What about Demandred?
30/04/2010 05:12:55 AM
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D'oh! How come I didn't immediately think of a politician? Seriously?
30/04/2010 12:45:35 PM
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What is your argument?
30/04/2010 06:12:24 PM
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Indeed
01/05/2010 09:35:06 AM
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Except LTT DID do good. You know, saving the world from the Dark One and all. He was good. QED
01/05/2010 05:06:31 PM
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and Demandred fought the Shadow for half the war... what's the point?
01/05/2010 09:20:00 PM
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You can do good without being good. It's mostly the system's fault (credit? )
01/05/2010 11:30:16 PM
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How do you judge people, if not by their actions?
02/05/2010 06:29:16 AM
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The WoT does NOT feature a "small set of characters"
03/05/2010 12:06:56 AM
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I kinda thought most of those points were in what I already wrote
03/05/2010 02:53:04 AM
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Re: Alll the incompetent Forsaken talk lately...
30/04/2010 02:44:06 AM
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I agree with a few of your points
30/04/2010 07:24:59 AM
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