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One issue Cannoli Send a noteboard - 29/04/2010 03:32:59 AM
Egwene now consider what she had to do a "necessary evil" - that the end she sought justified the means, but that it didn't make them any less harmful to the good of the Tower. Now that the Tower is reunited, she seems ready to play by the political rules within the system of check and balance.

We don't know enough about the Law of War. Technically, if it could be proclaimed against an entity like "the Shadow", the Tower would have been perpetually at war since its founding... it rather seems that the fight against the Shadow is part of the Tower's traditional mission and doesn't call for any formal declaration of war. Declaring war against the Shadow might sound a little stupid... make it sound like the Tower wasn't fighting the Shadow until then.... that might remind people that indeed the Tower was too busy with inner fighting lately to do its job...

It sounds more likely that this law was introduced after Hawkwing assieged the Tower and targets nations or groups like the Whitecloaks that might fght the Tower one day.
Since the siege lasted after Hawkwing's death, that would be impossible. In PoD, Egwene says that the last object of a declaration of war was Hawkwing himself. Even if the Law of War was put on the books in order to deal with him, the phrasing argues otherwise. That would make him the "only" one on whom war was declared, not the "last." Indeed, the irregular expansion of the Tower's territory in the FY period from its symetrical boundary of the AB era suggests the Tower was right in the middle of international affairs and politics, playing hardball like anyone else, and likely declared war as they found it convenient or necessary. The era when they held political supremacy and rulers were crowned by the Tower's leave is always stated as the days "before the Trolloc Wars" implying their time as nuetral or transcending such practices had long since passed by Hawkwing's day.

Deane Aryman who apparently was doing a spectacular job at rebuilding the Tower after Bonwhin died too early trying to negotiate in person between factions in the War of Hundred Years. That was probably considered a disaster. That's possibly the occasion after which the Hall made it law that the Amyrlin could not willingly place herself in danger without the Hall's pre-approval unless the Tower was itself at war. It would explain why the Sitters were so unfamiliar with this law: it would be an obscure Law that's never been used except to stop Amyrlins from placing themselves in danger (Sitters tried to use this to stop Siuan from going to Fal Dara in TGH, but they lost the vote).
While its uncommon use would explain Siuan's pique at being restrained by the Hall in tGH, in fact the law is much older. It is two thousand years old by this time.

The rest of the Law, concerning the leadership while at war, may be very little known (it sounds like the cookie handed to the Amyrlin in the most unlikely case the Tower went to war, in exchange for placing a limit of her power all the time. The Hall had to convince the Amyrlin to sign this law...)
I doubt it. On reflection, given Romanda's ready use of the law to restrict Egwene (and she was not in the Hall that cast that vote regarding Siuan), it is doubtful that the two provisions are so closely linked. Otherwise, Romanda's (and indeed all the Sitters)missing the obvious benefits to Egwene in a declaration of war becomes inexplicable. Rather the dating of the restriction on the Amyrlin's safety suggests that the Law of War is much, much older, and very much on the minds of the Sitters and sisters of the time when the safety law was made, that they thought to place that exception in it. This too, might suggest a reason for declaring War on the Shadow. While there are issues of power and authority, there ARE wartime practices that may be necessary. Can Egwene do all that she needs to from a desk? Or will she be satisfied with asking the Hall's permission to go about as Tarmon Gaidon draws closer and the number of places that do not fall under the description of "danger" dwindle? The reason for an official war being the exception to the Amyrlin-safety law is the necessity of streamlined measures.

The bigger question is whether the Hall will or not want to declare war on the Seanchan or consider that they must because the Seanchan are de facto at war with the Tower already. If the bloodknives continue to kill sisters, the Hall may realize the danger is far from over.
And there will be issues of whether or not a declaration of war is necessary to deal with such an issue, with Egwene's seizure of dictatorial powers rubbing the Sitters raw, the obvious inability of the Tower to match the Seanchan in direct fighting capability (thus suggesting other courses of action than open war to be in their best interest - such as applying political and economic pressure, fighting through proxies and a war of intrigue and assassinations such as the Bloodknives will likely inspire), and Egwene's mishap which resulted in her capture. Lacking our narrative perspective, I doubt the Aes Sedai will see the last as a key step in the Pattern's plan or something crucial and necessary to her gaining the trust of the loyalists, and rather as a potential disaster for Egwene averted solely by Elaida's fortuitous arrogance (I foresee a great deal of whitewashing over the exact nature of events during the rebellion, with the blame for as much as possible or credible being placed on Elaida's doorstep).

But I doubt if anything like this happen the initiative will come from Egwene. If the Law of War is enacted again, that will be at the initiative of the Hall itself, IMO. It would hinge on whether the Hall believes the Tower benefits from giving Egwene special powers to prosecute the war against the Seanchan, or if the Hall can work well enough to keep running the Tower with the Amyrlin the normal way. I think some Sitters would call for the Law of War only if the Hall is so divided again that swift decisions about the Seanchan just can't be made, and for some reasons I doubt the Hall will dare stalling and bicker over everything again for a while: they too have their lesson from the Tower split.
To which I agree, so a declaration will probably not be necessary.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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Elaida was the usurper, Egwene is/was the rightful Amerlyn. *NM* - 28/04/2010 03:28:59 PM 275 Views
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