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Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard Knightscape Send a noteboard - 05/09/2009 11:03:54 AM


Actually, neither seem to fit. Why? Because Rand says it's odd it's from his own memory, not Lews Therin's. So, there's something bizarre going on. This is emphasized by the fact Rand points he told no one, not even Min about it. The events out of the Waste shown in Rhuidean are not centuries old, they occured centuries after the Breaking. This doesn't fit.

It seems obvious the scabbard/sword was found near the manor, by the Asha'man digging. They found that recently, brought it to Rand.

Who could have lost a sword with dragons in this area of the Westlands, centuries ago? Elementary, Dr. Watson. It's Guaire Amalasan. Hawkwing fought him in that area, this area is part of Amalasan's first conquests. Rand, in a struggle against Tuon, just got the sword of Hawkwing's archefoe.

But how the heck can Rand know this?

>Rand's head is getting invaded by new people - perhaps the barrier is completely broken and gradually new dead people he isn't the rebirth of will do 'walk-ins'. Not impossible, but a bit loony

>Moridin. Technically, Ishamael shouldn't have been around yet by the time of Amalasan - he joined Hawkwing's court decades later, after the Consolidation. Moridin may however well know enough about those times to know Amalasan had a scabbard like this (which he may have lost and got replaced by another just like it, obviously). This Sword may be as famous as Hawkwing's own Justice. So, it's not Rand but maybe Moridin who knows what this sword is.

> A more puzzling idea: another who could very well remember this sword (even if I'm wrong it's Amalasan, but I'm pretty sure I'm not) is Mat. Rand may be beginning to access Mat's 'Finn' memories at random, without even realizing it's not his own. We may be seing a new incremenent in the 'colours' phenomenon. Eh, eh... if that is so, Rand may be starting to hear wolves next. LOL! I laugh, but if this is what it is, this is rapidly going to escalate into a big tangle. Rand would see Tuon and think of her as his wife and all that sort of thing. You know, I think this one might be my favourite of the three ideas, as loony as it sounds.






My first inclination was that it belonged to an incarnation of the dragon between Lews Therin and Rand Al'Thor. This dragon would have been thought to be a false dragon.
If the theories are combined then perhaps it is the sword of Guaire Amalasan who shared the same soul as Lews Therin and Rand Al'thor.

All good things come to those who wait.
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spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 04:55:30 AM 1917 Views
I assumed he remembered it because it was Lews Therin's *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:18:39 AM 370 Views
But he specifically says that it is from his memories and not Lews Therin's *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:20:29 AM 388 Views
Was it just the scabbard or a new sword too? *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:30:11 AM 375 Views
Good question, I'm not sure, tho if I had to guess I'd say just the scabbard *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:33:08 AM 366 Views
It was the sword - 06/09/2009 12:21:55 AM 771 Views
So think the scabbard is an angreal/ter'angreal? *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:15:45 AM 370 Views
God I hope not, they are entirely too common. *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:21:28 AM 400 Views
It must be... - 07/09/2009 04:37:59 AM 774 Views
Care to elaborate? - 07/09/2009 06:37:14 AM 703 Views
You're right about the sword - 07/09/2009 07:20:22 AM 780 Views
I'd still prefer if it wasn't - 07/09/2009 06:37:19 AM 826 Views
I'm thinking the sword - 05/09/2009 07:05:27 AM 829 Views
Oops - 05/09/2009 07:06:39 AM 734 Views
Re: spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 05:20:10 AM 806 Views
no - 05/09/2009 05:23:29 AM 771 Views
best idea i've read... - 05/09/2009 05:27:47 AM 883 Views
o_O *NM* - 05/09/2009 05:29:37 AM 398 Views
That's... awesome, actually. Although I can't picture - 06/09/2009 05:21:32 AM 804 Views
My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:42:42 AM 858 Views
Re: My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:47:00 AM 793 Views
Re: My thoughts on the PoV character - 05/09/2009 05:58:14 AM 816 Views
that isn't related to my being annoyed by him *NM* - 05/09/2009 07:04:14 AM 392 Views
Re: spoilers from first chapter and a question - 05/09/2009 06:27:49 AM 866 Views
I'd bet it's answered in the prologue. *NM* - 05/09/2009 06:28:47 AM 422 Views
I hadn't thought of that - 05/09/2009 06:31:42 AM 775 Views
Re: I hadn't thought of that - 08/09/2009 10:59:46 PM 659 Views
Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard - 05/09/2009 08:07:10 AM 908 Views
Re: Hmmm... not Rhuidean - I'm betting the farm on it being Guaire Amalasan's scabbard - 05/09/2009 11:03:54 AM 819 Views
How about something simpler? - 05/09/2009 05:16:09 PM 783 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 05/09/2009 11:42:01 PM 964 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 08/09/2009 06:25:49 PM 687 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 08/09/2009 11:22:06 PM 712 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 09/09/2009 12:42:08 AM 927 Views
Re: How about something simpler? - 04/11/2009 12:12:54 PM 971 Views
Funny thought. - 06/09/2009 10:45:49 PM 736 Views
completly new idea - 05/09/2009 10:07:07 PM 740 Views
Utterly wrong, but i'll throw it in anyway.... - 05/09/2009 01:01:14 PM 690 Views
It's in the Prophecy. Hawking's sword Justice. - 06/09/2009 12:37:13 AM 848 Views
I like that. - 06/09/2009 04:32:16 AM 720 Views
I like that a lot. Seems the most likely out of all of these, too. - 06/09/2009 05:24:08 AM 768 Views
I like it too, and it begs the question... - 06/09/2009 07:37:09 AM 720 Views
I think you might be correct. - 06/09/2009 07:45:17 AM 771 Views
They don't know it's a dragon - 06/09/2009 10:19:11 AM 805 Views
It doesn't really matter - 07/09/2009 01:09:38 AM 759 Views
I said that! - 06/09/2009 09:49:23 AM 804 Views
lol - 06/09/2009 03:36:44 PM 679 Views
Re: lol - 07/09/2009 01:14:59 PM 692 Views
I thought the great sword means it is a very long two-handed sword. - 07/09/2009 01:35:32 AM 763 Views
The scabbard is COMPLETELY wrong - 08/09/2009 01:10:24 AM 751 Views

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