The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator...
Etzel Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
But given the concept of infinity and endlessly cyclical time, I believe that this 'first' Age, when the Creator created everything, is not actually the first because in order to have infinite cycles, an infinite past had to be created along with an infinite future.
The 7 spoked Wheel is basically an image for a cosmic loom, which bit by bit creates the respective Pattern of each Age. There must have been a time, when the weaving of the Pattern started, after the Creator placed the Wheel, and thus there must have been a "first 1st Age", a "first 2nd Age", and so on.
Why do you assume it is impossible for the Creator to create infinite time going backward in time, but possible to create infinite time going forward?
But if he actually did this. As far as we know from RJ about the cosmology of the WoT, the Pattern is gradually "woven" by the Wheel. This implies - of course - a first 1st Age, even if this Age and all following Ages are then endlessly repeated. The Creator didn't already create the full Pattern with all of the past and future from the start.
thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages....
21/04/2010 10:32:38 PM
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I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age...
22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM
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Yeah, it's the "third age"...
22/04/2010 02:13:56 PM
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Difficult to see how you can refer to a billion people as a "fringe"... *NM*
22/04/2010 05:02:08 PM
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You really think half of all christians believe that Earth is only 3000 years old? *NM*
23/04/2010 12:35:01 AM
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Last I've heard, the majority of Christians weren't fundamentalists
23/04/2010 01:54:04 PM
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That's not entirely right
22/04/2010 03:54:23 PM
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I think FT is saying that human conceptions of time don't apply to eternity.
22/04/2010 04:14:45 PM
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However, I think RJ definitely had an idea, what each Age of the 7 Ages is supposed to be. *NM*
22/04/2010 09:53:20 PM
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I don't think so.
22/04/2010 09:57:43 PM
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No, the point is...
23/04/2010 10:06:03 AM
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Not sure what your point/question is. Doesn't seem like an issue to me quite frankly .
26/04/2010 04:45:21 PM
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Well, maybe.
22/04/2010 06:32:05 PM
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Doesn't make sense
22/04/2010 09:51:55 PM
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Why?
22/04/2010 11:16:21 PM
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The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator...
23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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Yes, but as we also know from the cosmology of WoT...
23/04/2010 09:08:58 AM
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Yeah...
23/04/2010 10:03:19 AM
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Why must there have been such a thing?
23/04/2010 07:30:02 PM
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So, you believe there never was a first 1st Age? *NM*
24/04/2010 08:55:45 AM
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Yes and no...
24/04/2010 10:55:02 PM
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Don't think so, but might be an interesting question for BS! *NM*
25/04/2010 09:38:09 AM
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Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages....
23/04/2010 04:15:49 AM
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Can't be...
23/04/2010 08:27:29 AM
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Yeah, but Loial apparently read a copy of The Lord of the Rings somewhere...
23/04/2010 09:11:00 AM
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It's reversed...
23/04/2010 10:10:56 AM
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I doubt it, I don't have the books with me right now...
23/04/2010 07:31:34 PM
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