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Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. Kieran Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM
It's only logical that there actually must have been one very first Age, immediately after the Creator made the Wheel. Of course, after countless turnings of the Wheel, the names "first Age", "second Age" and so on lost their meaning a bit, since you could also call them the 1081. Age and the 1082. Age (or whatever would fit, if you count all Ages that ever occurred). However, since the particular Ages basically always have the same activity, it makes sense to name them always from 1st Age to 7th Age and not continuously increase the numbers in the names of the Ages or change the particular numbers of the Ages (at least from the PoV from an omniscient narrator).


Indeed, the books say that each turning of the wheel has slightly more change to it. its not a loop but more like a spiral growing bigger and bigger each time. Each time it still circles, but a little bigger than the last time, or rather a little more change than last time.
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thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... mazza3 - 21/04/2010 10:32:38 PM 1218 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... GateKeeper - 22/04/2010 12:54:27 AM 864 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... Kieran - 22/04/2010 07:06:52 AM 630 Views
I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age... Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM 738 Views
Yeah, it's the "third age"... DomA - 22/04/2010 02:13:56 PM 705 Views
Difficult to see how you can refer to a billion people as a "fringe"... *NM* Shannow - 22/04/2010 05:02:08 PM 320 Views
You really think half of all christians believe that Earth is only 3000 years old? *NM* Japhy - 23/04/2010 12:35:01 AM 326 Views
Last I've heard, the majority of Christians weren't fundamentalists DomA - 23/04/2010 01:54:04 PM 619 Views
How about "living on the fringe of reality"? *NM* Marshall - 24/04/2010 10:21:17 PM 324 Views
That's not entirely right Etzel - 22/04/2010 03:54:23 PM 667 Views
I think FT is saying that human conceptions of time don't apply to eternity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 04:14:45 PM 604 Views
However, I think RJ definitely had an idea, what each Age of the 7 Ages is supposed to be. *NM* Etzel - 22/04/2010 09:53:20 PM 305 Views
I don't think so. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 09:57:43 PM 580 Views
No, the point is... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:06:03 AM 656 Views
Not sure what your point/question is. Doesn't seem like an issue to me quite frankly . RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/04/2010 04:45:21 PM 653 Views
The question is... Etzel - 26/04/2010 05:08:48 PM 582 Views
I agree with FT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/04/2010 06:28:29 PM 746 Views
Well, maybe. Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 06:32:05 PM 632 Views
Doesn't make sense Etzel - 22/04/2010 09:51:55 PM 574 Views
Why? Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 11:16:21 PM 602 Views
Ok File Leader - 23/04/2010 12:15:03 AM 597 Views
The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator... Etzel - 23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 598 Views
Yes, but as we also know from the cosmology of WoT... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 09:08:58 AM 651 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:03:19 AM 607 Views
Why must there have been such a thing? Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 07:30:02 PM 609 Views
So, you believe there never was a first 1st Age? *NM* Etzel - 24/04/2010 08:55:45 AM 326 Views
Yes and no... Fanatic-Templar - 24/04/2010 10:55:02 PM 578 Views
Don't think so, but might be an interesting question for BS! *NM* Etzel - 25/04/2010 09:38:09 AM 295 Views
True that. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 25/04/2010 06:30:03 PM 354 Views
Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. Kieran - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM 655 Views
More change? Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 05:03:22 AM 561 Views
Re: More change? Kieran - 24/04/2010 01:25:22 AM 593 Views
On the Ages... Etzel - 22/04/2010 02:16:38 PM 888 Views
Re: On the Ages... Kieran - 23/04/2010 01:54:16 AM 606 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 03:09:32 PM 714 Views
Nah, it's just a Tolkien rip-off... ursidae - 22/04/2010 06:05:50 PM 1034 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... gjjfh - 23/04/2010 04:15:49 AM 657 Views
Can't be... Etzel - 23/04/2010 08:27:29 AM 627 Views
Yeah, but Loial apparently read a copy of The Lord of the Rings somewhere... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 09:11:00 AM 666 Views
It's reversed... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:10:56 AM 728 Views
I doubt it, I don't have the books with me right now... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 07:31:34 PM 672 Views
I don't think that's right. *NM* Etzel - 24/04/2010 08:57:45 AM 630 Views
You're right, that is not referenced in the book. Fanatic-Templar - 25/04/2010 06:34:29 PM 578 Views
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