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Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. Kieran Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM
It's only logical that there actually must have been one very first Age, immediately after the Creator made the Wheel. Of course, after countless turnings of the Wheel, the names "first Age", "second Age" and so on lost their meaning a bit, since you could also call them the 1081. Age and the 1082. Age (or whatever would fit, if you count all Ages that ever occurred). However, since the particular Ages basically always have the same activity, it makes sense to name them always from 1st Age to 7th Age and not continuously increase the numbers in the names of the Ages or change the particular numbers of the Ages (at least from the PoV from an omniscient narrator).


Indeed, the books say that each turning of the wheel has slightly more change to it. its not a loop but more like a spiral growing bigger and bigger each time. Each time it still circles, but a little bigger than the last time, or rather a little more change than last time.
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thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... - 21/04/2010 10:32:38 PM 1716 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... - 22/04/2010 12:54:27 AM 1270 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... - 22/04/2010 07:06:52 AM 1017 Views
I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age... - 22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM 1162 Views
Yeah, it's the "third age"... - 22/04/2010 02:13:56 PM 1157 Views
That's not entirely right - 22/04/2010 03:54:23 PM 1077 Views
I think FT is saying that human conceptions of time don't apply to eternity. - 22/04/2010 04:14:45 PM 998 Views
However, I think RJ definitely had an idea, what each Age of the 7 Ages is supposed to be. *NM* - 22/04/2010 09:53:20 PM 480 Views
I don't think so. - 22/04/2010 09:57:43 PM 990 Views
No, the point is... - 23/04/2010 10:06:03 AM 1059 Views
Not sure what your point/question is. Doesn't seem like an issue to me quite frankly . - 26/04/2010 04:45:21 PM 1050 Views
The question is... - 26/04/2010 05:08:48 PM 957 Views
I agree with FT - 26/04/2010 06:28:29 PM 1142 Views
Well, maybe. - 22/04/2010 06:32:05 PM 1040 Views
Doesn't make sense - 22/04/2010 09:51:55 PM 990 Views
Why? - 22/04/2010 11:16:21 PM 1010 Views
Ok - 23/04/2010 12:15:03 AM 1006 Views
The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator... - 23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 1017 Views
Yes, but as we also know from the cosmology of WoT... - 23/04/2010 09:08:58 AM 1109 Views
Yeah... - 23/04/2010 10:03:19 AM 1004 Views
Why must there have been such a thing? - 23/04/2010 07:30:02 PM 1026 Views
So, you believe there never was a first 1st Age? *NM* - 24/04/2010 08:55:45 AM 512 Views
Yes and no... - 24/04/2010 10:55:02 PM 995 Views
Don't think so, but might be an interesting question for BS! *NM* - 25/04/2010 09:38:09 AM 537 Views
True that. *NM* - 25/04/2010 06:30:03 PM 553 Views
Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM 1068 Views
More change? - 23/04/2010 05:03:22 AM 956 Views
Re: More change? - 24/04/2010 01:25:22 AM 1013 Views
On the Ages... - 22/04/2010 02:16:38 PM 1317 Views
Re: On the Ages... - 23/04/2010 01:54:16 AM 1033 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... - 22/04/2010 03:09:32 PM 1129 Views
Nah, it's just a Tolkien rip-off... - 22/04/2010 06:05:50 PM 1522 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... - 23/04/2010 04:15:49 AM 1064 Views
Can't be... - 23/04/2010 08:27:29 AM 1018 Views
Yeah, but Loial apparently read a copy of The Lord of the Rings somewhere... - 23/04/2010 09:11:00 AM 1064 Views
It's reversed... - 23/04/2010 10:10:56 AM 1128 Views
I doubt it, I don't have the books with me right now... - 23/04/2010 07:31:34 PM 1123 Views
I don't think that's right. *NM* - 24/04/2010 08:57:45 AM 1057 Views
You're right, that is not referenced in the book. - 25/04/2010 06:34:29 PM 969 Views

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