Since so much with TAR revolves around sheer force of will (which is why the strong-willed Nynaeve and Siuan were remotely better than the rest even without much training or raw skills) it's really hard to believe Moghedien has the confidence and strength of will to make the most of her skills unless she's on her own in TAR, even if in theory she knows more and can do more than Lanfear or Moridin. It sounds like these two, the WO and above all Egwene would outclass Moghedien in an open TAR fight just because of their much stronger will. In TAR like elsewhere, Moghedien most likely would have to strike from the shadows to hope defeating them. In an open contest, she'd probably go down because her will and confidence aren't strong enough. Sooner or later her cowardice or weak personality would make her doubt even for a split second, panic and falter, and she'd be finished. It's interesting incidentally that when Lanfear faced Rand at the docks, she approached it quite a bit as a duel of wills as if she was fighting in TAR. I really wouldn't want to challenge Lanfear to a duel of wills in TAR... If Egwene or the WO need to face Cyndane there during TG, it will be nasty, a lot more so than if they have to fight Moghedien.
Yep, I agree.
But I think we see shades of her superior skill with T'A'R when she spies on the Forsaken meeting from another part of the Dreamworld (with none of them noticing or detecting her), finds Birgitte and Nynaeve, then tracks them to where they retreat. She lacks strength and will, but she is still dangerous because of her skills.
IE: She knows stuff, but she lacks the willpower and the strength of resolve to really do anything with that knowledge. I think it sort of goes back to her role before the Fall - she was an investment banker reaping the rewards of insider information about what other people did, but she neither made these relationships nor sustained them, just passively profited from the residuals.
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This message last edited by RugbyPlayingAshaman on 22/04/2010 at 09:11:42 PM
Some similarities between Semirhage and Moghedien
20/04/2010 04:17:27 PM
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Oops, my mistake.
20/04/2010 04:57:47 PM
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I was under the impression that Semirhage was quite feared among the Forsaken?
20/04/2010 07:25:45 PM
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Yes and in tGS Graendal thought she might be leading the triumForsakenate
20/04/2010 07:33:31 PM
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I was talking about Moghedien and Mesaana. Didn't read through the whole post lol *NM*
20/04/2010 09:17:56 PM
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Not even the title? *NM*
21/04/2010 12:16:40 AM
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15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
20/04/2010 08:15:46 PM
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Re: 15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
20/04/2010 09:21:18 PM
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Re: 15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
21/04/2010 01:23:09 AM
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Re: 15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
21/04/2010 04:43:10 PM
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Re: 15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
22/04/2010 06:38:28 PM
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Re: 15. Both have 9-letter names (plus some lesser-known similarities) ...
21/04/2010 02:30:10 PM
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Moghedien should really have been called the Wannabe or The Sponge instead of the Spider
20/04/2010 10:23:33 PM
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Lanfear: How'd you get so good at navigating TAR? Moghedien: I absorbed it.
20/04/2010 10:32:41 PM
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Ouch... little harsh there
21/04/2010 06:59:58 PM
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Re: Ouch... little harsh there
22/04/2010 08:16:59 PM
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Re: Ouch... little harsh there
22/04/2010 08:57:37 PM
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Re: Some similarities between Semirhage and Moghedien
21/04/2010 01:35:08 AM
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Semi was at the Cleansing. You are mixing it up with the Forsaken Coffee Hour.
23/04/2010 02:15:44 PM
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When did Semirhage try to capture Nynaeve? I can't remenber that. *NM*
21/04/2010 06:31:39 PM
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Nynaeve insinuates an attack in KoD when Semirhage is captured *NM*
21/04/2010 07:01:42 PM
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