I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age...
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM
Given that the Wheel is cyclical, there can't really be a 'first' Age, that would imply a beginning. That, I reckon, is why Robert Jordan always wrote 'called the Third Age by some', it's not a real designation, it's just people calling it that.
As to why people would call it the third, well, obviously it can't be the first because there was the Age of Legends just prior. And if the Age of Legends was the culmination, the perfect absolute of what could be reached (in Third Agers' opinion... people always seem to think that the past was better than the present, there are Golden Ages in most every culture, and even today you can hear people talking about how things were so much better 'back in the day'... only in fantasy does that ever seem to be really true though), then there must have been an Age before that, the age of the beginning. All it would take would be some widespread loss of knowledge (like another Breaking of the World, or, heck, a worldwide Dark Ages) and people would probably start calling their current Age 'the Third Age' again.
Anyway, as to what brings us back to our current Age (The 'First' there's really no way to know. I mean, we know the history of our world fairly well back to the solar system's creation, so it's hard to see where previous Earthbound Ages occur, either RJ was using certain liberties with our timeline, or else the last Age (the seventh, according to the seven Age hypothesis) will end with a Big Bang...
As to why people would call it the third, well, obviously it can't be the first because there was the Age of Legends just prior. And if the Age of Legends was the culmination, the perfect absolute of what could be reached (in Third Agers' opinion... people always seem to think that the past was better than the present, there are Golden Ages in most every culture, and even today you can hear people talking about how things were so much better 'back in the day'... only in fantasy does that ever seem to be really true though), then there must have been an Age before that, the age of the beginning. All it would take would be some widespread loss of knowledge (like another Breaking of the World, or, heck, a worldwide Dark Ages) and people would probably start calling their current Age 'the Third Age' again.
Anyway, as to what brings us back to our current Age (The 'First' there's really no way to know. I mean, we know the history of our world fairly well back to the solar system's creation, so it's hard to see where previous Earthbound Ages occur, either RJ was using certain liberties with our timeline, or else the last Age (the seventh, according to the seven Age hypothesis) will end with a Big Bang...
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thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages....
21/04/2010 10:32:38 PM
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I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age...
22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM
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Yeah, it's the "third age"...
22/04/2010 02:13:56 PM
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Difficult to see how you can refer to a billion people as a "fringe"... *NM*
22/04/2010 05:02:08 PM
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You really think half of all christians believe that Earth is only 3000 years old? *NM*
23/04/2010 12:35:01 AM
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Last I've heard, the majority of Christians weren't fundamentalists
23/04/2010 01:54:04 PM
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That's not entirely right
22/04/2010 03:54:23 PM
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I think FT is saying that human conceptions of time don't apply to eternity.
22/04/2010 04:14:45 PM
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However, I think RJ definitely had an idea, what each Age of the 7 Ages is supposed to be. *NM*
22/04/2010 09:53:20 PM
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I don't think so.
22/04/2010 09:57:43 PM
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No, the point is...
23/04/2010 10:06:03 AM
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Not sure what your point/question is. Doesn't seem like an issue to me quite frankly .
26/04/2010 04:45:21 PM
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Well, maybe.
22/04/2010 06:32:05 PM
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Doesn't make sense
22/04/2010 09:51:55 PM
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Why?
22/04/2010 11:16:21 PM
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The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator...
23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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Yes, but as we also know from the cosmology of WoT...
23/04/2010 09:08:58 AM
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Yeah...
23/04/2010 10:03:19 AM
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Why must there have been such a thing?
23/04/2010 07:30:02 PM
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So, you believe there never was a first 1st Age? *NM*
24/04/2010 08:55:45 AM
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Yes and no...
24/04/2010 10:55:02 PM
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Don't think so, but might be an interesting question for BS! *NM*
25/04/2010 09:38:09 AM
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Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages....
23/04/2010 04:15:49 AM
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Can't be...
23/04/2010 08:27:29 AM
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Yeah, but Loial apparently read a copy of The Lord of the Rings somewhere...
23/04/2010 09:11:00 AM
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It's reversed...
23/04/2010 10:10:56 AM
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I doubt it, I don't have the books with me right now...
23/04/2010 07:31:34 PM
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