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Or been to America, apparently... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 08/12/2009 11:57:05 PM
Americans in general do treat muslims in general like shit. it is a very unfortunate situation, IMO, since there are just as many whacko fundamentalists that are christian as there are muslims whacko fundies. But most of the violent acts that these christian fundies perform get buried in the news with little to no national coverage in most circumstances.
You're full of it. What violence do they perform that is a direct result of religion? There might be some people who are devout or (apparently devout) Christians you also commit violence, but ANY person who commits a violent crime based on their pastor or priest's teaching gets highlight. For instance, abortionists getting an ironic 2,000th trimester abortion... there have been no more than a dozen or two of those since Roe V Wade, but every time it happens we hear all this carping about religion and Christian fundamentalism. Meanwhile, each time a Muslim commits a mass murder, with the aproval of his clery and his fellows in other countries dancing the streets in celebration, everyone rushes to proclaim their estrangement from "real" Muslims, and reiterate the usual bullshit about "the religion of peace" which was founded by a bandit chief and spread mainly by the sword, and divides the world in "The House of Islam" and "The House of War." Every airline terrorist act in the USA has been carried out by Arab Muslims but they are still exempted from racial profiling.

I've got nothing against Muslims and find I have a lot more in common with them than most "Christians" in America today, and can even understand what the 9/11 terrorists were after, and abstractly admire their guts. My main complaint against them has to do with what sides we happen to be on. Jihad, crusade, all good. But don't DARE give me that crap about us treating them badly! The worst places to be a Muslim are in the Middle East, NOT the US or Northern or Western Europe! You can tell because of all the Muslims LEAVING the one place, and GOING TO the others.

And few of our television shows try to do anything to rectify this situation.
Wonderful insight from someone who admits to not watching television. The producers of 24 all but get down and give the Muslim community head in their efforts to appease them. In an era where Muslim terroism is the most relevant terrorist plot, shows like 24 feature at least half of their terror plots coming from Europeans or Americans, with every Muslim terrorist antagonist balanced by a good Muslim spilling the beans, renouncing terrorism, having second thoughts about their plot or else giving his or her all to help Jack Bauer and facing suspicion and bigotry from Americans! The single most "anti-Muslim" TV show on the air is always making sure to give the good Muslims representation. Another TV show entirely about Muslim terrorists, "Sleeper Cell," had a Muslim protagonist who was infiltrating the terrorists. TV shows are constantly pulling the tired old plot trick of making it seem like the killer/problem/whatever is Muslim terrorists or Muslim violence, and OOOPS it was either bigotry or a clever frame job that took advantage of the prevalent and insidious anti-Muslim bigotry rampant in American society.

Meanwhile, scholastic books are published by reputable houses that attempt to spread the guilt for Nazism throughout the entire German race. Americans are demanded to apoologize, make resitution and pay reparations for slavery, when in most cases the only guilt they have comes from having the wrong skin color despite ancestors who moved here a decade of more after it was abolished, or else never even lived where it was legal. We spent a hundred times as many casualties ending slavery as we have in conquering Muslim countries, but we are still "guilty" of slavery! At what point does forgiving & excusing a religion with a 1200+ year tradition of encouraging, abetting and profitting by religious terrorism and even initiating the first religious genocide of the 20th Century become enough?

The one that I know makes the attempt on a fairly regular basis is NCIS, and the funny thing is, the character that seems the most understanding and accepting of the muslims is Ziva, the Jewish Mossad agent. Go figure!
Oh, yeah. With the entertainment industry disproportionately run by persons of Jewish ethnicity, the Israeli looks good. Go figure.
Cannoli
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This message last edited by Cannoli on 08/12/2009 at 11:57:34 PM
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