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Surely that alone doesn't ruin two entire seasons. (major spoilers of course) Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/10/2009 09:51:12 PM
They are atrocious, don't get me wrong they have good espisodes, but the whole Buffy-Spike thing was laughable and ridiculous. Oh, we've lost our main dark/troubled vampire love interest to another series, what shall we do? Lets use the other one...wow, took them 5 seconds to think that up.

Especially since there's only a small beginning of it in season five. And while it wasn't the most original plot twist ever, they did make it kind of credible and fitted it nicely into the other drama of season six.
The season 5 Big Bad was mediocre. And whilst Willow at the end of 6 was pretty awesome for a few episodes, they totally stepped back from the edge and ruined what could have been one of the best dark moments in TV history.

Oh come on. She was awesome. I'm not sure about the season five ending, admittedly, but Glory had a ton of great lines and moments, and you've got to admit the Ben is Glory twist was a good one.
I'm not saying they were bad, just that they were not as good as teh 1st 3. They didn't have that perfect mix of comedy/horror/action/light/dark/moody/troubled/fun that the 1st 3 seasons had. Other than a few selected one-off episodes that didn't really follow the overacrhing seasons story.

They were darker, of course, so perhaps less comedy and less fun, which is even more true for season seven. But the overarching story was stronger than in seasons two and three, which still had a few of the "monster of the week" episodes like in the first season, and the extended cast, as well as their older age and hence wider possibilities, made things quite interesting, I thought. It would've been unrealistic to keep going in the same vein as if nothing had happened, as if things were still as they were before, despite everything that happened in seasons two, three and four.
Season 7 meanwhile was just a long turgid boring never ending discussion. It was most definately bad in almost every sense.

It had moments that were awesome, including the entirety of Conversations with Dead People, the Spike-Wood episode and everything involving Nathan Fillion, but yes, probably the weakest season except for one. As I said to Sophy, I thought all the additional characters cut into the screen time of the main cast, which left some of them with very few character development, while honestly the new characters weren't all that interesting except for Kennedy (and the girl in Conversations whose name I forget now). Not a big Faith fan, either, at least not in the way they handled her return. But then, supposedly it wasn't supposed to be the last season, so Whedon kind of had to improvise the series finale and all... perhaps it'd have been better otherwise.
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I started watching Buffy. - 05/10/2009 07:12:12 AM 990 Views
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What do you want him for? *NM* - 05/10/2009 06:04:39 PM 342 Views
He is ridiculously goodlooking? *NM* - 06/10/2009 06:39:39 AM 324 Views
He's not! - 06/10/2009 06:44:03 AM 482 Views
Oh I think so. - 07/10/2009 07:43:25 AM 483 Views
Course you can - 05/10/2009 08:45:52 PM 570 Views
Re: Course you can - 06/10/2009 06:39:14 AM 521 Views
Hey! - 06/10/2009 06:46:15 AM 492 Views
You're in luck. - 05/10/2009 09:07:51 AM 565 Views
Spike ROCKSSS!!! I'd go gay for that character LOL - 05/10/2009 06:38:12 PM 533 Views
Re: You're in luck. - 08/10/2009 05:06:13 AM 480 Views
It most certainly gets better. - 05/10/2009 11:11:29 AM 615 Views
Re: It most certainly gets better. - 05/10/2009 05:52:52 PM 619 Views
It peaks with Season 3 - 05/10/2009 12:16:29 PM 524 Views
Re: It peaks with Season 3 - 05/10/2009 05:15:41 PM 538 Views
thats one of the greatest episodes of ANY show of all time IMO - 05/10/2009 06:40:14 PM 536 Views
That's the one. - 05/10/2009 07:38:21 PM 493 Views
No! - 05/10/2009 05:59:44 PM 510 Views
Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks that. - 05/10/2009 06:02:07 PM 523 Views
Exactly! - 05/10/2009 06:09:51 PM 533 Views
Re: No! - 05/10/2009 06:16:06 PM 466 Views
I didnt like S7. - 05/10/2009 06:56:15 PM 481 Views
Seconded on Conversations. - 05/10/2009 09:35:21 PM 465 Views
Wow, a rare chance to correct your writing - 16/10/2009 05:26:25 PM 605 Views
You're right. *NM* - 16/10/2009 05:33:44 PM 296 Views
Some people didn't care for Six's Big Bad, but I thought it was one of the better seasons. - 05/10/2009 06:29:40 PM 505 Views
I loved the trio! *spoilers* - 05/10/2009 06:51:09 PM 503 Views
Yes, the archnemeseses.... LOL *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:52:45 PM 355 Views
God no *SPOILERS* - 05/10/2009 07:51:53 PM 624 Views
Surely that alone doesn't ruin two entire seasons. (major spoilers of course) - 05/10/2009 09:51:12 PM 665 Views
I agree. - 06/10/2009 06:53:37 AM 525 Views
Good for you! - 05/10/2009 06:02:53 PM 518 Views
Welcome to the Hellmouth, Jessie! - 05/10/2009 07:51:45 PM 534 Views
It's awesome all the way through - 05/10/2009 09:06:37 PM 533 Views
Heh., I watched the first two episodes tonight. - 05/10/2009 09:21:54 PM 475 Views
I will judge you - 05/10/2009 10:28:10 PM 513 Views
Well. Your judgment hardly counts. - 05/10/2009 10:59:51 PM 446 Views
Re: Heh., I watched the first two episodes tonight. - 06/10/2009 06:40:18 AM 464 Views
Oh... - 06/10/2009 08:58:43 AM 547 Views
*points and laughs* - 06/10/2009 09:01:10 AM 495 Views
No. You have not earned the right to criticize my taste. - 07/10/2009 11:59:22 AM 473 Views
Who else matters? - 07/10/2009 07:45:44 AM 441 Views
Well... - 07/10/2009 11:58:16 AM 457 Views
That's weak. - 08/10/2009 12:24:33 AM 466 Views
I loved them back in the day - 08/10/2009 08:38:05 PM 509 Views
I have rewatched the entirety of Buffy and Angel at least 7 times each. - 09/10/2009 01:01:57 AM 482 Views
Buffy is GREAT and has a wide range. It's not exactly necessary to watch Angel, though... *NM* - 09/10/2009 11:38:13 AM 373 Views
Oh, it is! - 15/10/2009 08:08:04 AM 474 Views
Yay Buffy - 09/10/2009 02:15:23 PM 464 Views
I must say I liked the mayor. That kind of insanity makes shows like this fun. *NM* - 16/10/2009 09:54:49 PM 252 Views
Three seasons in eleven days? Impressive. - 16/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 483 Views
well, nothing on tv... - 16/10/2009 10:56:29 PM 454 Views
You fast forward? - 17/10/2009 01:56:55 PM 435 Views
Yep, occasionally. - 17/10/2009 07:56:21 PM 509 Views
Yes! He's one of my favourites. - 17/10/2009 12:38:42 PM 471 Views
Snyder would need more screentime, really. - 17/10/2009 07:59:03 PM 467 Views
Re: Buffy is thematically inconsistent. But the 1st three seasons are great, and so is season five. - 28/10/2009 06:54:23 PM 491 Views
darn, too late. - 28/10/2009 07:35:29 PM 446 Views
Season six is awesome, just, you know, pure angst. *NM* - 30/10/2009 10:28:31 PM 227 Views

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