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Re: I may be alone on this, but... Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/01/2016 08:42:42 PM

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my first idea to explain this seemingly ancient and extremely experienced bad guy was that he isn't actually there - that the reason he only appears in hologram form is, very simply, that that is all there is. In other words, some kind of very advanced holocron created by some Sith of the past, which is fully interactive and has a memory and the ability to process new information and everything.

I could be completely off-base and violating half a dozen established canon rules with that theory, though, I'm far from an expert.

Your theory about Darth Plagueis seems plausible enough, but the main argument against it is that, as per my five minutes of research just now, Snoke's appearance was left to the very final stages of post-production to decide. Unless you figure they just said that to throw people off.


My favorite theory is that he is a Sith Holocron but DomA read the book adaptation of the movie and he says that both Han and Leia know of Snoke. I'm not sure if he confirmed it but I think he suggested that they have met him?

It's also wierd that Snoke wants Rey to be brought before him in person if he's a holocron. Then again, Sith ghosts have real power esp on Korriban so who knows.

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Yip that's true *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 669 Views
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Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story Sidious - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 982 Views
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Re: I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi Sidious - 07/01/2016 03:26:34 PM 1002 Views
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I only partially agree Sidious - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 978 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true random thoughts - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1085 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 893 Views
Well said *NM* ironclad - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 741 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 942 Views
Of course it is random thoughts - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 928 Views
Okay so about the big bad guy *spoilers* Sidious - 05/01/2016 06:27:37 PM 1012 Views
I may be alone on this, but... Legolas - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1004 Views
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What speaks against is for me... ironclad - 05/01/2016 10:57:44 PM 1349 Views
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It's all good stuff, like the first book in a good sci-fi/fantasy trilogy! Sports_Gambler - 07/01/2016 06:44:45 AM 1034 Views
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Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. ironclad - 09/01/2016 01:14:09 PM 1641 Views
Re: Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. Sidious - 09/01/2016 06:58:07 PM 970 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... Duke - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1066 Views
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