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It was fun, and I look forward to the next ones, but can't say I was that wowed. Legolas Send a noteboard - 30/12/2015 09:26:10 PM

I'm probably an atypical kind of Star Wars fan in the sense that my favourite stories - by far - aren't those of the original trilogy, nor obviously the prequel trilogy, but the KoTOR games. Which of course could never have existed without the trilogy and its worldbuilding, but still - they have a stronger plot, just as memorable characters and even greater thematic depth, if you ask me. No doubt part of that is simply because there's more space for a complex plot and a player in a RPG is more involved than a movie viewer, per definition.

So I guess I had a lot less nostalgia and affection for the old characters in TFA than most people in this thread, just for the universe they move in - and then it makes sense that I'm just as interested in new characters living in that universe as in the old ones.

So I'd be disappointed if Rey turns out to be a Skywalker relative, or if Luke takes the leading role again in the next movies - past time for some new blood, and past time for a female lead.

I agree with many of the observations others have made about the lack of originality in the plot and the silliness of the WMD of choice - the plot was entertaining enough and expertly paced, but we were given precious little reason to care about the WMD (oh no, it destroyed a planet full of people we hadn't seen for as much as a second prior to that moment!), even aside from its plausibility within the context of the story. The imitation of the A New Hope Death Star battle isn't nearly as interesting as the original - I'd almost say little more than filler inbetween the Rey/Han/Finn/Kylo Ren scenes.

Rey and Kylo Ren are really the main factors that will make or break the rest of the trilogy for me - their future, their mysterious pasts and how the two will intertwine. Perhaps the only audacious thing about the whole movie, that, because they'll have to fill in the blanks as they go along, and make viewers more fully appreciate the events of TFA along the way. I kind of feel like Kylo Ren has indeed chosen his path with his actions in that big dramatic moment - but I can't see what it is, yet, until I've seen more of the backstory.

As for best sci-fi movie in years - sorry, but Interstellar's boots are not that easily filled.

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Star Wars : The Force Awakens review (spoiler free) - 17/12/2015 09:18:26 AM 2598 Views
Love your review! I'm seeing it tomorrow night at 9pm. Can't wait! *NM* - 18/12/2015 01:20:16 AM 919 Views
Some (relatively spoiler free) thoughts - 18/12/2015 12:27:22 PM 1662 Views
I pretty much agree with most of that. - 18/12/2015 01:05:16 PM 1603 Views
Agreed, Driver did a great job..... - 19/12/2015 05:46:44 AM 1440 Views
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The books... - 21/12/2015 09:05:28 PM 1547 Views
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In general agreement ** potential Spoilers ** - 19/12/2015 06:06:23 AM 1426 Views
There are books? - 19/12/2015 11:19:07 AM 1459 Views
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So Darth Plagieus might still be in? Sweet. - 20/12/2015 04:44:21 AM 1426 Views
Palpatine's master? - 20/12/2015 02:25:45 PM 1470 Views
I mean the novel of that name. - 22/12/2015 09:47:16 PM 1421 Views
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Yeah, I think we're talking about the same one. - 24/12/2015 12:05:57 AM 1405 Views
Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 19/12/2015 06:07:16 PM 1494 Views
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Some thoughts about the Force... - 20/12/2015 06:04:43 AM 1560 Views
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Also, SPOILER thoughts. - 18/12/2015 01:00:32 PM 1661 Views
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You're making me reply to two posts - 18/12/2015 03:29:23 PM 1546 Views
The death (spoilers) - 22/12/2015 10:30:05 PM 1478 Views
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Arbrams impressed me(spoiler free) - 19/12/2015 05:17:42 AM 1573 Views
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They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 18/12/2015 11:38:36 PM 1445 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 19/12/2015 12:19:10 AM 1625 Views
Well - 19/12/2015 05:53:56 AM 1428 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 19/12/2015 07:46:06 AM 1626 Views
people forget they were kids movies *NM* - 19/12/2015 01:17:10 AM 887 Views
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Yip that's true *NM* - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 887 Views
And Simon Pegg was the alien who ran the trading post Rey always went to *NM* - 20/12/2015 02:30:59 PM 954 Views
I got the impression he was actually her boss or contractor - 28/12/2015 12:48:48 PM 1553 Views
Pretty much... - 29/12/2015 12:08:58 AM 1466 Views
Absolutely, yes *NM* - 29/12/2015 01:54:52 PM 937 Views
Just saw it! Holy shit, shit, shit, shit.....it was amazing. - 19/12/2015 05:38:44 AM 1516 Views
Loved it (Spoilers) - 19/12/2015 06:16:54 AM 1444 Views
Fantastic characters, great entertainment, no originality, no logic - 29/12/2015 03:33:43 AM 1498 Views
Your Mom has no originality or logic! *NM* - 29/12/2015 11:39:41 AM 926 Views
JJ Abrams should be able to do better than my Mom - 30/12/2015 04:20:54 AM 1404 Views
I gave it a B+ overall but I think the characters are its weak spot - 29/12/2015 05:08:15 PM 1273 Views
JJ Abrams' movies are character-driven, Lucas' movies are plot-driven - 30/12/2015 04:38:49 AM 1397 Views
Lucas has created some of the most iconics chacters in movie history ? - 31/12/2015 02:29:02 PM 1370 Views
So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 30/12/2015 10:11:01 AM 1465 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 30/12/2015 07:10:56 PM 1789 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 30/12/2015 09:24:08 PM 1410 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 31/12/2015 04:58:24 PM 1373 Views
It was fun, and I look forward to the next ones, but can't say I was that wowed. - 30/12/2015 09:26:10 PM 1431 Views
Why is time for female lead and why does the lef think subtraction is the answer to inequality? - 04/01/2016 01:37:37 PM 1213 Views
Because the six other movies had zero female Jedis of any importance? - 04/01/2016 05:58:25 PM 1472 Views
Just another check the box movie, then - 04/01/2016 06:02:41 PM 1327 Views
Oh, come on. You're really going to complain just because they had a woman and a black guy? - 04/01/2016 11:48:52 PM 1435 Views
They are talking abou tmakin ght Gunslinger black - 05/01/2016 02:05:36 PM 1354 Views
Yeah, Star Wars is just part of the larger trend. It can't be viewed in a vacuum (pun intended). - 05/01/2016 02:38:34 PM 1322 Views
That's not really what I said, you'll note. - 05/01/2016 07:48:08 PM 1552 Views
I don't think it was Disney's business acumen. - 06/01/2016 06:59:46 PM 1601 Views
Wow. That's... sad. - 06/01/2016 09:32:37 PM 1489 Views
Re: Wow. That's... sad. - 08/01/2016 03:08:58 AM 1443 Views
I am noit sure how well that 7-12 girl demographic will work in merchandising - 08/01/2016 06:30:47 PM 1437 Views
Your premise is entirely wrong. - 12/01/2016 05:53:26 AM 1365 Views
Actually, they do have a major character who is Latino. - 12/01/2016 07:15:31 PM 1427 Views
The culture wars are just about blacks and feminists. - 13/01/2016 02:31:20 AM 1434 Views
All that Paul said - 17/01/2016 05:13:59 PM 2088 Views
LOL - 05/01/2016 06:33:50 PM 1375 Views
Funny that people use strwmen arguments to make themsleves feel smart - 08/01/2016 04:22:22 PM 1475 Views
It's not a straw man - 08/01/2016 04:52:03 PM 1445 Views
it was story of a father and son so it makes sense to male leads - 04/01/2016 06:59:33 PM 1296 Views
Male leads, sure, but it wasn't just the leads. - 04/01/2016 11:28:12 PM 1440 Views
Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close - 05/01/2016 05:55:51 PM 1402 Views
I don't see how it makes sense to compare their roles, but Finn is certainly plenty strong. - 05/01/2016 07:38:05 PM 1462 Views
Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story - 06/01/2016 02:52:58 PM 1509 Views
Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 1420 Views
I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi - 07/01/2016 02:49:44 PM 1400 Views
Re: I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi - 07/01/2016 03:26:34 PM 1445 Views
The reall issue it looks like Luke sucked as Jedi master - 07/01/2016 07:14:31 PM 1376 Views
Sorry, no. - 06/01/2016 06:56:09 PM 1474 Views
What a load of crap. - 08/01/2016 10:29:35 AM 1354 Views
I only partially agree - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 1496 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1502 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 1336 Views
Well said *NM* - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 930 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 1381 Views
Of course it is - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 1339 Views
Okay so about the big bad guy *spoilers* - 05/01/2016 06:27:37 PM 1427 Views
I may be alone on this, but... - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1433 Views
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What speaks against is for me... - 05/01/2016 10:57:44 PM 1773 Views
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It's all good stuff, like the first book in a good sci-fi/fantasy trilogy! - 07/01/2016 06:44:45 AM 1440 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1561 Views

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