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Loved it (Spoilers) gban007 Send a noteboard - 19/12/2015 06:16:54 AM

Overall I thought it was great, definitely better than the Prequels, though not sure yet where fits against Original movies (may need to see it a bit more first ).

I thought Kylo Ren was an interesting villain, and once clear that was Solo's son, I guessed what was going to happen to Han eventually, especially after Leia asked Han to try and bring him home.

He was conflicted, and as opposed to Canolli, while the overall affect is an evil person wanting to be more evil, I don't think he thinks of himself / Vader as evil (nor his overlord person).

I think he more believes like the New Order / Empire that the Galaxy needs Order above everything else, and to do that you need to rule by force / tyranny, and so Vader looks like a good example of this, and Kylo Ren appears to battle with fear about the light side breaking through, and that this isn't what he wants to be, and thinks that he needs to be stronger (perhaps a bit like the cycle Dark Rand went through?).

Both Dark Side characters seemed to portray it as not a battle between good / evil, but two different viewpoints, equally seductive (the overlord warning Ren not to be seduced by the Light Side).

Sad to see Han die, though it was a powerful scene.

Curious to see where the next movie picks up - all the other movies have generally had a few years occur between movies, but this one seemed set up to go straight into the next movie, with the scene between Luke / Rey.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Luke's character - he is potentially going on a reverse journey to Kylo Ren - a strong believer in 'good' - freedom of choice, preventing tyranny etc., but potentially finding his deeds are causing more issues than solving - so may not want to get involved at all.

So Ren is trying to do more to become stronger, while Luke is trying to do less to prevent more damage.

Anyway, it will be a hard 18 month wait!

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Star Wars : The Force Awakens review (spoiler free) - 17/12/2015 09:18:26 AM 2707 Views
Love your review! I'm seeing it tomorrow night at 9pm. Can't wait! *NM* - 18/12/2015 01:20:16 AM 1030 Views
Some (relatively spoiler free) thoughts - 18/12/2015 12:27:22 PM 1782 Views
I pretty much agree with most of that. - 18/12/2015 01:05:16 PM 1662 Views
Agreed, Driver did a great job..... - 19/12/2015 05:46:44 AM 1542 Views
Replies and spoilers - 18/12/2015 03:04:37 PM 1644 Views
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The books... - 21/12/2015 09:05:28 PM 1647 Views
Re: The books... - 22/12/2015 03:12:52 AM 1623 Views
In general agreement ** potential Spoilers ** - 19/12/2015 06:06:23 AM 1518 Views
There are books? - 19/12/2015 11:19:07 AM 1557 Views
Re: There are books? - 19/12/2015 05:41:45 PM 1594 Views
So Darth Plagieus might still be in? Sweet. - 20/12/2015 04:44:21 AM 1493 Views
Palpatine's master? - 20/12/2015 02:25:45 PM 1558 Views
I mean the novel of that name. - 22/12/2015 09:47:16 PM 1508 Views
Re: I mean the novel of that name. - 22/12/2015 10:05:49 PM 1595 Views
Yeah, I think we're talking about the same one. - 24/12/2015 12:05:57 AM 1490 Views
Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 19/12/2015 06:07:16 PM 1585 Views
I don't think any of that had to be explained. - 19/12/2015 12:16:07 PM 1472 Views
I'm more or less in complete agreement (spoilers) - 19/12/2015 08:22:21 PM 1612 Views
Some thoughts about the Force... - 20/12/2015 06:04:43 AM 1661 Views
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Also, SPOILER thoughts. - 18/12/2015 01:00:32 PM 1782 Views
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You're making me reply to two posts - 18/12/2015 03:29:23 PM 1649 Views
The death (spoilers) - 22/12/2015 10:30:05 PM 1582 Views
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Arbrams impressed me(spoiler free) - 19/12/2015 05:17:42 AM 1668 Views
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They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 18/12/2015 11:38:36 PM 1526 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 19/12/2015 12:19:10 AM 1706 Views
Well - 19/12/2015 05:53:56 AM 1538 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. - 19/12/2015 07:46:06 AM 1719 Views
people forget they were kids movies *NM* - 19/12/2015 01:17:10 AM 935 Views
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Yip that's true *NM* - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 962 Views
And Simon Pegg was the alien who ran the trading post Rey always went to *NM* - 20/12/2015 02:30:59 PM 1009 Views
I got the impression he was actually her boss or contractor - 28/12/2015 12:48:48 PM 1644 Views
Pretty much... - 29/12/2015 12:08:58 AM 1566 Views
Absolutely, yes *NM* - 29/12/2015 01:54:52 PM 1032 Views
Just saw it! Holy shit, shit, shit, shit.....it was amazing. - 19/12/2015 05:38:44 AM 1604 Views
Loved it (Spoilers) - 19/12/2015 06:16:54 AM 1582 Views
Fantastic characters, great entertainment, no originality, no logic - 29/12/2015 03:33:43 AM 1605 Views
Your Mom has no originality or logic! *NM* - 29/12/2015 11:39:41 AM 986 Views
JJ Abrams should be able to do better than my Mom - 30/12/2015 04:20:54 AM 1538 Views
I gave it a B+ overall but I think the characters are its weak spot - 29/12/2015 05:08:15 PM 1371 Views
JJ Abrams' movies are character-driven, Lucas' movies are plot-driven - 30/12/2015 04:38:49 AM 1472 Views
Lucas has created some of the most iconics chacters in movie history ? - 31/12/2015 02:29:02 PM 1483 Views
So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 30/12/2015 10:11:01 AM 1539 Views
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Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 30/12/2015 09:24:08 PM 1497 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) - 31/12/2015 04:58:24 PM 1446 Views
It was fun, and I look forward to the next ones, but can't say I was that wowed. - 30/12/2015 09:26:10 PM 1534 Views
Why is time for female lead and why does the lef think subtraction is the answer to inequality? - 04/01/2016 01:37:37 PM 1328 Views
Because the six other movies had zero female Jedis of any importance? - 04/01/2016 05:58:25 PM 1544 Views
Just another check the box movie, then - 04/01/2016 06:02:41 PM 1403 Views
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They are talking abou tmakin ght Gunslinger black - 05/01/2016 02:05:36 PM 1431 Views
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That's not really what I said, you'll note. - 05/01/2016 07:48:08 PM 1613 Views
I don't think it was Disney's business acumen. - 06/01/2016 06:59:46 PM 1668 Views
Wow. That's... sad. - 06/01/2016 09:32:37 PM 1594 Views
Re: Wow. That's... sad. - 08/01/2016 03:08:58 AM 1542 Views
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Your premise is entirely wrong. - 12/01/2016 05:53:26 AM 1439 Views
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The culture wars are just about blacks and feminists. - 13/01/2016 02:31:20 AM 1512 Views
All that Paul said - 17/01/2016 05:13:59 PM 2187 Views
LOL - 05/01/2016 06:33:50 PM 1439 Views
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It's not a straw man - 08/01/2016 04:52:03 PM 1522 Views
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Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 1509 Views
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The reall issue it looks like Luke sucked as Jedi master - 07/01/2016 07:14:31 PM 1456 Views
Sorry, no. - 06/01/2016 06:56:09 PM 1557 Views
What a load of crap. - 08/01/2016 10:29:35 AM 1432 Views
I only partially agree - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 1580 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1589 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 1414 Views
Well said *NM* - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 980 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 1470 Views
Of course it is - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 1433 Views
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I may be alone on this, but... - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1497 Views
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It's all good stuff, like the first book in a good sci-fi/fantasy trilogy! - 07/01/2016 06:44:45 AM 1534 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1629 Views

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