Re: I haven't seen the fourth season yet, but one thing...
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 15/04/2014 11:27:26 PM
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Sibel Kekilli is not a "porn star". Sure, she acted in a few porn movies at the beginning of her career, but nobody knew her at the time and it's not until she became well-known for a great performance in a movie that piled up the European awards (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-On">Head-On</a> that the embarrassing truth about her former career became more widely known. And what does her accent have to do with it? Shae is clearly a foreigner with an accent in the books as well, as I recall.
Huh. That's weird. I wonder why I felt differently? Probably because her diction isn't awkward and her speech is full of Westerosi vernacular. I don't recall any references to her being of foreign origin.
Sibel Kekilli is not a "porn star". Sure, she acted in a few porn movies at the beginning of her career, but nobody knew her at the time and it's not until she became well-known for a great performance in a movie that piled up the European awards (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-On">Head-On</a> that the embarrassing truth about her former career became more widely known. And what does her accent have to do with it? Shae is clearly a foreigner with an accent in the books as well, as I recall.
Though that said, I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment of her role in the series (having only seen the first two seasons yet). She seems to lack what she does have in the books - a keen awareness of the eternally precarious position of a king's or nobleman's mistress, who may exert a great influence upon him but always has to remember that she has no formal power or even equality of rank, and can be unceremoniously dumped into the gutter at a moment's notice.
Actually, I got the opposite impression of Shae, that she was so used to pressing lesser johns that she completely lost perspective with Tyrion, and pushed him too hard, with no real comprehension of where things stood. That awareness of her position lasting only as long as she pleases her master would be a common one for any prostitute. She really doesn't exert much influence over Tyrion, aside from securing his affections sufficiently that he is unable to refrain from indulging himself with her even past the point of prudence.
That other great European actress wasted on a small role (Carice van Houten, as Melisandre) does a better job with her similar position - or the writers did a better job, more like.
Except that one seems to be getting more important as it goes on. And again, yet another case of over-sexualizing the role. For all that Martin's books were noted for their frank sexuality, in hindsight, and especially compared to the show, there was an awful lot that was left in the background. Stannis and Melisandre's relationship was left a lot more up in the air and the extent to which he was a willing or eager participant in the shadowbaby rituals, or even the degree of his knowledge, seemed to have been deliberately ambiguous. His lust for her on the show is certainly out of character for Stannis in the books, from either Davos' observations, OR Melisandre's own opinion of his nature. But GoT wanted to spread one of their more attractive actresses out naked on a conference table so...
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Deus Vult!
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Game of Thrones - Season 4, Episode 2 - Purple Wedding!!!!!
14/04/2014 04:39:16 AM
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Well that was disappointing *NM*
14/04/2014 07:15:14 AM
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Two things.....
14/04/2014 03:13:07 PM
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It didn't feel right.
15/04/2014 04:05:01 AM
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Some good points.
15/04/2014 07:40:20 AM
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I haven't seen the fourth season yet, but one thing...
15/04/2014 06:37:51 PM
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Re: I haven't seen the fourth season yet, but one thing...
15/04/2014 10:18:55 PM
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I do have the impression she might not be entirely at ease in English.
16/04/2014 05:57:56 PM
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Re: I haven't seen the fourth season yet, but one thing...
15/04/2014 11:27:26 PM
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those are all just "it wasn't the same as the book" arguments
15/04/2014 05:34:34 PM
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I didn't say it was bad
15/04/2014 11:55:58 PM
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I didn't see the episode....
16/04/2014 11:53:26 PM
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Its very good, some of the best tv ever, but you are right it is not the same
17/04/2014 12:03:27 AM
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The term Purple Wedding troubles me
14/04/2014 04:26:14 PM
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I assume.....
14/04/2014 04:34:10 PM
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It was for the most part very good (book spoilers)
14/04/2014 10:47:14 PM
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I have to ask.....
15/04/2014 02:32:36 AM
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If you really want to know (bookwise, I mean)...
15/04/2014 07:46:15 AM
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Oh, but Rigg really did it Cannoli ..
15/04/2014 03:48:21 PM
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Pretty cool.....I watched that scene about 10 times and never saw.....
16/04/2014 03:19:52 AM
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