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Looks like it. ironclad Send a noteboard - 16/12/2012 12:19:19 PM
Are we talking about Azog here the one who killed Thorin Oakenshield's grandfather, Thrór? The same Thrór who after gotten kicked out as king under the mountain by the dragon Smaug, bequeathed one of the dwarf magic rings to his son Thráin II (Thorin Oakenshield's father). After losing the lonely mountain Thorin's grandfather decided to try to retake Moria. (A foolhardy task for there was still the balrog.)

Of course Thror died a bloody death, he was captured and tortured by Azog the Orc, the killed, and then his body was desecrated. Thror's death then caused a massive war between the orcs and the dwarves. In this war Thorin's father loses an eye and Thorin becomes a warrior and gains the title Oakenshield since his shield was destroyed Thorin just cut down a tree and used a branch to defend himself.

All this is in the film.

Personally, I couldn't remember if there was an orc nemesis in the Hobbit book, nor have I read any appendices, so that didn't bother me much. Only that he was CGI instead of prosthetics.
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The Hobbit - Discussion thread and first thoughts ironclad - 13/12/2012 12:21:52 AM 2608 Views
As for the 3D... ironclad - 13/12/2012 04:18:43 PM 1399 Views
Please get everyone to stop watching movies in 3D in Europe. Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:40 AM 1252 Views
You overestimate my influence on the people of Europe ironclad - 17/12/2012 11:08:06 AM 1286 Views
Re: As for the 3D... moondog - 08/01/2013 09:25:43 PM 1367 Views
Re: As for the 3D... ironclad - 09/01/2013 09:13:27 AM 1294 Views
I wouldn't call it a rash - more like chafing. nossy - 14/12/2012 04:36:42 PM 1268 Views
Ouch - comparing it to Crystal Skull? *NM* Tom - 15/12/2012 02:02:00 AM 617 Views
Well, the trolls were Moe, Larry and Curly, so... *NM* nossy - 15/12/2012 02:15:19 AM 617 Views
I liked it. There are some nitpicks, but overall it is enjoyable beetnemesis - 14/12/2012 04:50:28 PM 1187 Views
A bit too silly and special effects driven. TheCrownless - 14/12/2012 11:10:48 PM 1260 Views
Agreed. patternweaver - 23/12/2012 12:32:23 AM 1275 Views
I think two words have killed this movie for me: "orc nemesis" Tom - 15/12/2012 02:00:33 AM 1264 Views
To be fair, it's an orc nemesis from the books. Werthead - 15/12/2012 07:23:16 PM 1271 Views
Wait are we talking about Azog here? Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:08:11 AM 1232 Views
Looks like it. ironclad - 16/12/2012 12:19:19 PM 1149 Views
There was not an orc nemesis in the books Roland00 - 16/12/2012 01:55:59 PM 1109 Views
There actually was in Tolkein's mind, it is just contained in a different book. *NM* HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:37:13 PM 580 Views
Actually, they might have already screwed up the Thrain thing. Cannoli - 19/12/2012 01:47:38 AM 1305 Views
I feel robed from my dreams. ferqwert - 21/12/2012 07:57:30 PM 1116 Views
If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM 1121 Views
Or it would if he weren't a useless whining moron, anyway. Legolas - 09/01/2013 05:33:16 PM 1170 Views
Should have been edited down to 2 hours snoopcester - 15/12/2012 11:05:29 AM 1190 Views
Commercial, forgettable but enjoyable Sports_Gambler - 15/12/2012 11:42:53 AM 1181 Views
It was fun, but it was also weird. Nate - 16/12/2012 08:50:54 AM 1140 Views
Better Nate than lever *NM* *NM* ferqwert - 23/12/2012 11:23:40 PM 569 Views
+1 - Saw it on opening night and loved it! Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2012 01:22:33 AM 1125 Views
I hated it, but I know I will be in the minority. HyogaRott - 28/12/2012 02:45:26 PM 1202 Views
i mostly agree with you moondog - 08/01/2013 09:34:04 PM 1299 Views
I think any of those changes need to be viewed with the question, "Did it make a better movie?" beetnemesis - 09/01/2013 04:25:32 AM 1174 Views
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I was dissapointed. Bergioyn - 29/12/2012 01:59:29 PM 1269 Views
I liked it. Avendesora - 30/12/2012 03:56:15 AM 1417 Views
In a word...meh. Tigr - 03/01/2013 09:13:33 PM 1085 Views
i actually liked the stone giant fight, that was part of the book which i appreciated in the film moondog - 08/01/2013 09:47:18 PM 1245 Views
Came across an excellent review with some interesting analysis Legolas - 27/01/2013 10:17:06 PM 1267 Views
It was pretty good. orius - 11/02/2013 06:57:52 AM 1211 Views
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