The EE of TWO TOWERS is essential, FELLOWSHIP is optional and KING's just kills the movie stone dead
Werthead Send a noteboard - 14/12/2012 12:46:09 AM
FELLOWSHIP doesn't really need the new scenes, aside from one that sets up THE TWO TOWERS a bit better. They're nice and sometimes fun, but the only one that I felt was damaging to the pace was the White Council extended scenes. Even that wasn't too bad, since it did make Boromir's contribution to the scene more logical (there's something off about the cinematic version's scene of Boromir saying, "It is a gift!" without the EE's previous scene of Gandalf arguing with him).
Overall, I think FotR's extended edition doesn't work too badly and the pacing works if you take advantage of the disc swap to have a break.
THE TWO TOWERS is saved by its extended cut. The cinematic version is a near-disaster in terms of structure and pacing. The movie is lopsided, with Merry and Pippin vanishing for large stretches of time and Sam and Frodo doing the same. The EE gives both sets of characters some vital scenes back makes the story feel more balanced, as well as establishing Faramir's character with that superb flashback scene with Boromir and Denethor (which the cinematic version badly misses, as it leaves Faramir almost bereft of any kind of characterisation or character arc). Now the whole thing feels better and makes more sense. Bizarrely, despite being 40 minutes longer, it feels shorter than the cinematic version.
THE RETURN OF THE KING, on the other hand, is almost destroyed by the extended cut. On the commentary for FELLOWSHIP Jackson is saying that there's still stuff he left out because it disrupted the pace or didn't work tonally. On the KING commentary he's now saying how he doesn't like scenes but is just throwing them in because the fans might want to see them. The terrible 'pirate ship where half the production crew cameo' scene is a clear example of this and should have never made it into the film (actually, it should have been burned). Gandalf confronting the Witch-King sounds great, but in fact sucks and doesn't make any sense (and is less epic than the comparable scene in the novel). Aside from clearing up the geography of the Steward's tomb and the rest of Minas Tirith, and the nice scene with Frodo, Sam and the statue's head, there is nothing to recommend the EE of RETURN OF THE KING at all. And at over four hours, it makes the film just way too long.
Overall, I think FotR's extended edition doesn't work too badly and the pacing works if you take advantage of the disc swap to have a break.
THE TWO TOWERS is saved by its extended cut. The cinematic version is a near-disaster in terms of structure and pacing. The movie is lopsided, with Merry and Pippin vanishing for large stretches of time and Sam and Frodo doing the same. The EE gives both sets of characters some vital scenes back makes the story feel more balanced, as well as establishing Faramir's character with that superb flashback scene with Boromir and Denethor (which the cinematic version badly misses, as it leaves Faramir almost bereft of any kind of characterisation or character arc). Now the whole thing feels better and makes more sense. Bizarrely, despite being 40 minutes longer, it feels shorter than the cinematic version.
THE RETURN OF THE KING, on the other hand, is almost destroyed by the extended cut. On the commentary for FELLOWSHIP Jackson is saying that there's still stuff he left out because it disrupted the pace or didn't work tonally. On the KING commentary he's now saying how he doesn't like scenes but is just throwing them in because the fans might want to see them. The terrible 'pirate ship where half the production crew cameo' scene is a clear example of this and should have never made it into the film (actually, it should have been burned). Gandalf confronting the Witch-King sounds great, but in fact sucks and doesn't make any sense (and is less epic than the comparable scene in the novel). Aside from clearing up the geography of the Steward's tomb and the rest of Minas Tirith, and the nice scene with Frodo, Sam and the statue's head, there is nothing to recommend the EE of RETURN OF THE KING at all. And at over four hours, it makes the film just way too long.
So I was watching the extended cut of Fellowship of the Ring...
07/12/2012 09:22:46 AM
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No, I liked them
07/12/2012 05:59:14 PM
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I can understand that reasoning.
09/12/2012 08:30:09 PM
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Re: I can understand that reasoning.
09/12/2012 11:09:50 PM
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I feel they got the worst of both worlds in The Two Towers though.
10/12/2012 04:27:04 AM
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Hell no, the extended/special versions are so much better, I don't even own.....
07/12/2012 07:19:26 PM
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Not on Fellowship...
07/12/2012 08:14:16 PM
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Just wondering, what scenes of the Battle of MT didn't you like, and why? *NM*
08/12/2012 02:24:42 AM
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I think there are time when the extended editions do take away from the "big reveal"
08/12/2012 07:39:55 AM
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I preferred the extended cuts of the LotR movies greatly over the trimmed versions
09/12/2012 05:58:38 AM
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I think the Two towers extended edition is an improvement.
09/12/2012 06:31:18 PM
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Was that the one where Gimli lost a drinking contest to Legolas? *NM*
09/12/2012 06:56:49 PM
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Here's another vote for "haven't ever bothered to watch the non-EE editions after the first time".
10/12/2012 09:40:27 PM
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The Extended Editions are far superior to the Theatrical Releases. *NM*
11/12/2012 03:08:09 PM
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The EE of TWO TOWERS is essential, FELLOWSHIP is optional and KING's just kills the movie stone dead
14/12/2012 12:46:09 AM
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