I guess the hardest thing to overcome is actually something that predates the prequel trilogy... And that is that killing his master to prevent the electrocution death of his son is somehow "redemption" after slaughtering hundreds/thousands/millions/billions? The personal toll of which is left to debate based on if you limit it only to personally caused murders (including the children in the Jedi temple) and if you can implicate him in the destruction of Alderaan (whose total population I do not know).
More like OBL annihilating every living American but two, twenty years later finding out his son is now American and saving his son from death by other Al`Queda by killing the other guy in charge of Al`Queda with him. Debt totally repaid.
It's more like OBL bringing down Al Quaida in his final moments, before they can kill everyone in the US with their super weapon and entirely corrupt his son into their ranks. Which doesn't make him a flawless hero, considering his past, but still someone who did the right thing when the time came.
More like OBL annihilating every living American but two, twenty years later finding out his son is now American and saving his son from death by other Al`Queda by killing the other guy in charge of Al`Queda with him. Debt totally repaid.
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"..the one to bring balance to the force"
08/06/2012 08:42:49 PM
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I was under the impression it was widely accepted that Anakin brought balance to the force...
08/06/2012 09:36:55 PM
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Actually, the most recent book revealed a solid answer to the prophecy.
08/06/2012 10:48:43 PM
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Is that really as canon as the movies?
09/06/2012 01:29:49 AM
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As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station...
09/06/2012 03:21:12 PM
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Re: As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station...
10/06/2012 06:24:16 AM
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The books are entirely canon.
11/06/2012 06:46:23 AM
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Re: The books are entirely canon.
11/06/2012 04:43:47 PM
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There are certainly some inconsistencies, but very few outright contradictions.
11/06/2012 07:47:25 PM
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"Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1.
08/06/2012 11:04:03 PM
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Re: "Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1.
09/06/2012 06:04:39 AM
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But Obi Wan said Anakin was prophecied to destroy the Sith "not join them!" And he did. Eventually. *NM*
11/06/2012 04:38:42 PM
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Technically, going strictly by the films, that could have been supposition rather than quotation. *NM*
11/06/2012 10:01:16 PM
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If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want
09/06/2012 04:46:37 AM
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Re: If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want
09/06/2012 06:17:44 AM
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I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ
09/06/2012 10:19:01 AM
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Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ
09/06/2012 11:42:32 AM
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Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ
11/06/2012 04:49:06 PM
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This will sound offensive, sorry, but that sounds incredibly dumb.
09/06/2012 03:09:20 PM
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I don't see how it's dumb
09/06/2012 04:26:43 PM
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Re: I don't see how it's dumb
09/06/2012 06:18:17 PM
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I don't like your analogy - organisation vs nationality
09/06/2012 07:06:44 PM
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What if I had said Christians instead of Americans? Then you'd have the comparison you favor. *NM*
09/06/2012 08:44:21 PM
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No I wouldn't, I'm frankly confused as to why you think I would favour that more
09/06/2012 09:03:28 PM
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Not ideal maybe, but more an organization of people than a nation of people.
10/06/2012 12:11:51 AM
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What you seem to be overlooking...
09/06/2012 08:50:30 PM
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I'm not overlooking it. I just don't view the moment as one of "balance achievement".
10/06/2012 12:09:45 AM
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Your other posts don't sound as if you see what I'm getting at here...
10/06/2012 12:22:02 AM
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No, I do. You probably read my tangent about my disagreement with Lucas about Vader's redemption.
10/06/2012 12:41:36 AM
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The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist
09/06/2012 12:26:20 PM
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Re: The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist
11/06/2012 05:05:31 PM
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The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic
10/06/2012 03:34:13 AM
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Re: The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic
11/06/2012 05:06:54 PM
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