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Got shot down a lot, in major confilcts against foes with air power. snoopcester Send a noteboard - 12/05/2012 08:38:00 PM
Not sure which way you are going on that really.

Other air attack weapons had fighter escorts in the past without having the capacity to carry them. All the helicarrier does to that end is increase the chance that your "fighter screen" might be uselessly parked on board when bad guys come calling, instead of alertly flying escort duty. BTW, how much good DID that fighter screen do when Hawkeye came calling? IIRC, a single plane got with the helicarrier, which would never happen against a real life aircraft carrier.


Sorry but you aren't putting up a sensible argument here -
1) the Helicarrier isn't supposed to be an air attack weapon, as I have already pointed out.
2) Your argument about the fighter screen being on board rather than acting as a flying screen is the exact same for an aircraft carrier and a fixed air base - do you think both of them are also equally pointless? Where exactly would you launch aircraft from, if you are ruling all the conventional methods as useless?
3) the last point is a complete red herring, obviously. In fact you have already made the exact point as to why elsewhere.

And regarding stealth and covert ops, the ONLY FLYING SHIP in the world is not remotely conducive to that sort of thing. At all. Only if they have magic invisibility technology and magic radar diversion technology, in which case why not put those on something more reasonably and practically sized? "Come on boy, turn this baby around! We have to go to Beijing to exfiltrate a covert operative, then on to Syria to insert a commando unit, then to South America to interdict some narco-terrorists. You could probably afford, for the price of a helicarrier, 30 or so of those VTOL craft they use to board the carrier in the first place, which would be far more useful, operating from a HQ that stays at sea level, and which would appear to have a superior stealth profile.


You mean like the one they engaged?
and you are again missing the point here - it isn't just an attack craft, no matter how much you wish it to be. It was carrying various labs, prison cells and extensive store rooms of top secret, experimental equipment in the film. Reckon you can fit all than in "30 or so of those VTOL craft"? I doubt they could...
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