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I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM
Female is the MEDICAL TERM FOR FEMALE.

It's like getting offended over the word vagina, or penis. Or breast.

And woman is not all inclusive. It does not include female children. Mare:woman::Filly:girl. Not to mention that, if I understand correctly, it's a term far more open to conflict with "gender issues".

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's because I'm a veterinary student and I spend all day calling things male/female/neutered/spayed/intact/whatever. I'm used to referring to things by their definitions. It's just making a mountain out of a molehill to me.

What I really do not understand is if the term female offends you so much..why does it make a difference whether it's used as a noun or an adjective? Why is okay to describe the gender of a group of individuals if they all have something else in common like profession or hobby? What if the only relevant commonality is their sex? I'm sorry, but I just don't see how Jens actually transgressed any rule besides "don't gross the tiny lines the PC police has drawn". He wasn't trying to be rude (English isn't even his first damned language) and he wasn't saying anything disparaging.

If you're going to make an issue out of the use of a term, at least have the sense to make sure it's a good example so that people don't just see you has being hypersensitive over nothing. Don't get me wrong, I understand that people use the term disparagingly (just like they use the term "male" disparagingly at times), but that can be done with almost any word. I can say "bananas coconuts and grapes" with a mocking voice and you'll know what I think of Tarzan of the Apes!!
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2229 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 1014 Views
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No, it's totally off. *NM* - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 824 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 768 Views
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His racism point... - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 743 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 841 Views
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Why would I consider it to be femenist? - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 831 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 883 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 850 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 887 Views
Fair enough - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 929 Views
Stop using female as a noun! - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 835 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 845 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 834 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 768 Views
Thank you! - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 873 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 852 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 889 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 806 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 778 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 1020 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 749 Views
That's not what I said. - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 863 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 796 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 812 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 836 Views
Nope. (edit) - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 830 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 895 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 787 Views
Ok. - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1068 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 843 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 845 Views
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LOL u so mad - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 802 Views
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My dear - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 849 Views
LOL - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 694 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 679 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 806 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 801 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 792 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 800 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 829 Views
ooookay then. - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 882 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 744 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 784 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 797 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 809 Views
Fascinating. - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 843 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 821 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 820 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 870 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 759 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 791 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 770 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 885 Views
Aha, we found the problem - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 875 Views
You're being disingenuous. - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 797 Views
To be fair - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 837 Views
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Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 808 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 814 Views
This - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 803 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 776 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 843 Views
I think that might be debatable - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 819 Views
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Out of curiosity (this off topic) - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 769 Views
Rachel, of course. - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 837 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 882 Views