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To be fair Artsapat Send a noteboard - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM
you have a situation where you admit that you're not familiar with the source material, then there's an article written by someone unfamiliar with the source material, and people who are familiar with the source material say that the article is garbage and... your conclusion is "I can imagine it to be true". This is when we laugh.


The review was not written by a person unfamiliar with the source material. From what I read he had read the book and seen the movie.
The mystery deepens... I think. *MySmiley*
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. Artsapat - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2229 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" Vivien - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 1014 Views
Ok, I did and basically it's garbage. *NM* Vivien - 03/04/2012 04:53:00 PM 832 Views
I grant that I haven't read the Hunger Games yet LadyLorraine - 03/04/2012 05:10:38 PM 954 Views
No, it's totally off. *NM* Aeryn - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 823 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 767 Views
It's not. That's what shallow idiots say about things where women have power or physical skills *NM* Cannoli - 04/04/2012 03:45:22 PM 861 Views
I can only speak for the film, which was not feminist. ironclad - 03/04/2012 06:01:18 PM 927 Views
Where do I start? Vivien - 03/04/2012 07:43:18 PM 933 Views
Hermoine was the most kick ass of the Potter kids. MightyYT - 04/04/2012 03:08:17 AM 796 Views
So? Hunger Games has lots of male characters. Vivien - 04/04/2012 05:30:21 AM 855 Views
But that is exactly what feminist means "it could have been a boy just as well" Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:42:43 PM 923 Views
His racism point... Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 743 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying A Deathwatch Guard - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 840 Views
Why don't you think the Hunger Games are feminist? Vivien - 03/04/2012 11:17:53 PM 943 Views
Why would I consider it to be femenist? A Deathwatch Guard - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 831 Views
I just don't consider feminism as something that has to be radical. Vivien - 04/04/2012 05:42:59 AM 907 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph ironclad - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 882 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph DomA - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 849 Views
To you "feminist" is a dirty word? To me, it means acceptable. Differences in definitions I think Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:50:32 PM 835 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 887 Views
Fair enough ironclad - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 929 Views
Stop using female as a noun! Vivien - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 834 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred ironclad - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 844 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. Legolas - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 834 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 768 Views
Thank you! ironclad - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 872 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. Legolas - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 852 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 888 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. Legolas - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 806 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 778 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 1020 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 748 Views
That's not what I said. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 862 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 796 Views
Which flies in the face of it's ordinary usage, which smacks of needless revisionism. Dan - 06/04/2012 09:42:15 AM 789 Views
Oh please. Stop telling females to shut up. *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:45:58 PM 844 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... Vivien - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 811 Views
Accusatory of what.i think you meant annoyed. So youre annoyed she was annoyed? Let's out this to re *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:44:17 PM 866 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) Dan - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 836 Views
Nope. (edit) Legolas - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 830 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) Dan - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 894 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. Legolas - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 786 Views
Ok. Dan - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1068 Views
Let's try and whittle this down some so as to help you with the quotes. Legolas - 07/04/2012 05:42:32 PM 784 Views
However he meant it, it was unpleasant to read. Just use "woman" instead. *NM* Aeryn - 05/04/2012 08:13:13 PM 736 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. DomA - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 842 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. nossy - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 845 Views
English is not French, and it's not German. Particularly the connotations of American English words Dan - 06/04/2012 09:39:00 AM 922 Views
LOL! You don't say... DomA - 06/04/2012 05:06:20 PM 814 Views
LOL u so mad Dan - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 801 Views
The prospect of "losing cred" is not going to stop me from speaking my mind. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:30:03 PM 799 Views
My dear Aeryn - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 849 Views
LOL ironclad - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 693 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 678 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. nossy - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 805 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 800 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. Vivien - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 791 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 799 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. Vivien - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 828 Views
ooookay then. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 881 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. nossy - 05/04/2012 02:08:26 AM 857 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! dacole - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 744 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. Vivien - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 784 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. nossy - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 796 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. Dan - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 808 Views
Fascinating. Vivien - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 843 Views
Re: Fascinating. Dan - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 821 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. Vivien - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 819 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? Dan - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 869 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. Legolas - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 758 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. Dan - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 790 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. Legolas - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 770 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. Dan - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 884 Views
Aha, we found the problem Aeryn - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 874 Views
You're being disingenuous. Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 796 Views
Re: If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. dacole - 09/04/2012 03:09:06 AM 804 Views
Nothing wrong with your use of female. You should ignore those crazy foreigners saying otherwise. *NM* snoopcester - 06/04/2012 02:49:41 PM 692 Views
I think I'll start saying males instead of men. If the males here don't mind? *NM* Aeryn - 09/04/2012 12:58:54 PM 797 Views
To be fair Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 837 Views
You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Aeryn - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM 862 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Artsapat - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 808 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Bored - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 813 Views
This Cannoli - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 802 Views
Interesting. I really need to read these books soon, evidently. *NM* Legolas - 03/04/2012 10:52:43 PM 770 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. MightyYT - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 775 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* Mat Maniac - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 843 Views
I think that might be debatable Cannoli - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 818 Views
She still made plenty of choices and she did choose to kill. Vivien - 05/04/2012 07:13:47 PM 768 Views
The reviewer is kind of full of it, but makes a good point about the character Cannoli - 04/04/2012 04:22:30 PM 867 Views
Out of curiosity (this off topic) LadyLorraine - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 768 Views
Rachel, of course. Cannoli - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 836 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) Legolas - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 882 Views
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