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You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive Aeryn Send a noteboard - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM
As it is, I have absolutely no idea. However, though I don't think the Hunger Games are feminist, wouldn't particularly care about it if they were (like ironclad said, it's only annoying if it's preachy, and even then it isn't annoying because it's feminism, but because it's something that is preachy), I have to say that all the people I saw talking and raving about it on facebook were female. Is that a coincidence? Perhaps, but probably not.

Ultimately it hinges on whether or not Katniss is an active character or not. I wasn't able to finish the whole article, because I lost interest in it. But from what I gathered, the writer thought she was as passive as Cinderella, merely responding to events (unsuccessfully), until further events took matters out of her hands. I don't know if that's true or not, and the Cinderella comparison is definitely hyperbole, but I could imagine it being true. It seems like just the sort of thing to keep the main character from making polarizing decisions that would render her a murky gray.


The article is crap serious crap, I skimmed it. Th character is far from passive. And it disturbs me the way the writer of the article dismisses all of her actions and accomplishments. just about the only thing katniss doesn't do is go after other kids with the intent to murder them.
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2425 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 1183 Views
Ok, I did and basically it's garbage. *NM* - 03/04/2012 04:53:00 PM 1007 Views
I grant that I haven't read the Hunger Games yet - 03/04/2012 05:10:38 PM 1137 Views
No, it's totally off. *NM* - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 989 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 929 Views
I can only speak for the film, which was not feminist. - 03/04/2012 06:01:18 PM 1098 Views
Where do I start? - 03/04/2012 07:43:18 PM 1100 Views
Hermoine was the most kick ass of the Potter kids. - 04/04/2012 03:08:17 AM 957 Views
So? Hunger Games has lots of male characters. - 04/04/2012 05:30:21 AM 1008 Views
His racism point... - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 910 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 992 Views
Why don't you think the Hunger Games are feminist? - 03/04/2012 11:17:53 PM 1100 Views
Why would I consider it to be femenist? - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 997 Views
I just don't consider feminism as something that has to be radical. - 04/04/2012 05:42:59 AM 1063 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 1053 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 1019 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 1051 Views
Fair enough - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 1098 Views
Stop using female as a noun! - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 991 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 1039 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 989 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 910 Views
Thank you! - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 1028 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 1012 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 1050 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 965 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 934 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 1167 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 911 Views
That's not what I said. - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 1077 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 968 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 978 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 1006 Views
Nope. (edit) - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 1008 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 1063 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 943 Views
Ok. - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1250 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 1004 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 1013 Views
English is not French, and it's not German. Particularly the connotations of American English words - 06/04/2012 09:39:00 AM 1092 Views
LOL! You don't say... - 06/04/2012 05:06:20 PM 979 Views
LOL u so mad - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 965 Views
The prospect of "losing cred" is not going to stop me from speaking my mind. - 04/04/2012 10:30:03 PM 961 Views
My dear - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 1022 Views
LOL - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 844 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 839 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 985 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 948 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 938 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 959 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 988 Views
ooookay then. - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 1033 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 05/04/2012 02:08:26 AM 1016 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 889 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 934 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 965 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 981 Views
Fascinating. - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 984 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 985 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 975 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 1036 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 910 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 941 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 938 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 1075 Views
Aha, we found the problem - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 1048 Views
You're being disingenuous. - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 959 Views
To be fair - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 990 Views
You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM 1013 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 954 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 959 Views
This - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 956 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 954 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 1000 Views
I think that might be debatable - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 981 Views
She still made plenty of choices and she did choose to kill. - 05/04/2012 07:13:47 PM 922 Views
The reviewer is kind of full of it, but makes a good point about the character - 04/04/2012 04:22:30 PM 1037 Views
Out of curiosity (this off topic) - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 930 Views
Rachel, of course. - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 1033 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 1029 Views