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Why would I consider it to be femenist? A Deathwatch Guard Send a noteboard - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM
People thinking that it is feminist is what saddens me. Both those that think it's feminist and dislike it, and those that think it's feminist and laud it. Because finding it to be feminist just because it has a female main character is admitting defeat. It means that when a movie has a male MC it's just a normal movie, but if it has a female character then it's feminist. That isn't the way it should be, -isms should be reserved for when something is truly radical. I'd call a movie feminist if it was bringing women up while putting men down, not if it's just featuring a female character. That to me is perfectly ordinary.

As for why I said I can imagine it to be true... Yes, I realize it is quite ridiculous to say that I don't know a thing about the movie or the books, and to make any sort of comment on the article afterward. However it, and this topic, intrigued me, so here I am replying anyway. What I meant by it is that I agreed with what the article said about Cinderella, and the need for a character to make active decisions in order to qualify as "strong." Given that I don't see a problem with that portion of the article's logic, it becomes very believable that Katniss isn't the action heroine she has been touted to be.

If the article's writer really isn't familiar with the material like you say, obviously that changes things. As for you calling it garbage, sorry, but I don't know you any better than I do the article writer. You haven't expressed anything other than saying most of it is garbage, while the article (the portion of it that I read) expressed some thoughts that I agreed with. So yeah, it doesn't seem too unbelievable to think the article could be right about the rest. Until it is proven otherwise, of course.
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The Hunger Games gets a ... different kind of review. - 03/04/2012 03:37:39 PM 2187 Views
"Written by a female with femalist themes" - 03/04/2012 04:38:54 PM 971 Views
Ok, I did and basically it's garbage. *NM* - 03/04/2012 04:53:00 PM 791 Views
I grant that I haven't read the Hunger Games yet - 03/04/2012 05:10:38 PM 917 Views
No, it's totally off. *NM* - 03/04/2012 05:39:03 PM 780 Views
fair enough. like I said, I haven't read it yet. *NM* - 03/04/2012 07:20:34 PM 728 Views
I can only speak for the film, which was not feminist. - 03/04/2012 06:01:18 PM 883 Views
Where do I start? - 03/04/2012 07:43:18 PM 892 Views
Hermoine was the most kick ass of the Potter kids. - 04/04/2012 03:08:17 AM 755 Views
So? Hunger Games has lots of male characters. - 04/04/2012 05:30:21 AM 810 Views
His racism point... - 04/04/2012 02:32:43 PM 695 Views
Makes me almost wish I knew the source material so I could judge what he is saying - 03/04/2012 10:50:48 PM 797 Views
Why don't you think the Hunger Games are feminist? - 03/04/2012 11:17:53 PM 902 Views
Why would I consider it to be femenist? - 04/04/2012 01:51:24 AM 786 Views
Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 08:22:35 AM 840 Views
Re: Completely agree with your first paragraph - 04/04/2012 01:43:55 PM 803 Views
Unfortunately truly ordinary female characters are so rare that the exceptions stand out - 04/04/2012 01:49:16 PM 833 Views
Fair enough - 04/04/2012 02:33:22 PM 872 Views
Stop using female as a noun! - 04/04/2012 03:51:13 PM 798 Views
It's stuff like that that makes you lose cred - 04/04/2012 05:26:24 PM 801 Views
It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 04/04/2012 07:30:18 PM 793 Views
I don't think Jens was really using it that way, though - 04/04/2012 07:34:28 PM 726 Views
Thank you! - 04/04/2012 08:03:38 PM 828 Views
Of course he didn't intend it that way, but that's how it sounds. - 04/04/2012 08:06:03 PM 810 Views
I understand that, but it's still such a ridiculous thing to get fussed over - 04/04/2012 09:20:01 PM 847 Views
You are rather exaggerating just how "fussed" anyone did get, you do realize. - 04/04/2012 09:51:22 PM 762 Views
Her tone was not just "informative". It was accusatory - 04/04/2012 10:17:57 PM 737 Views
Female is perfectly acceptable to use in a medical/clinical setting. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:36:57 PM 979 Views
so if your problem is people using it disparagingly... - 04/04/2012 10:45:10 PM 708 Views
That's not what I said. - 04/04/2012 10:51:41 PM 822 Views
I'm going to have to just outright disagree with you then. *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:54:25 PM 752 Views
If I wanted to be accusatory... - 04/04/2012 11:05:37 PM 775 Views
Are you a native English speaker, Legolas? (Clarified to preempt possible internet tears) - 06/04/2012 09:29:28 AM 793 Views
Nope. (edit) - 06/04/2012 07:23:54 PM 790 Views
Re: Nope. (edit) - 07/04/2012 04:51:30 AM 856 Views
"Female that"? That's even worse. - 07/04/2012 11:42:00 AM 745 Views
Ok. - 07/04/2012 03:27:16 PM 1024 Views
Re: It's fairly derogatory as a noun, though, have to agree with Vivien on that one. - 05/04/2012 02:21:21 AM 798 Views
I think the language difference is really interesting. - 05/04/2012 03:13:03 PM 808 Views
English is not French, and it's not German. Particularly the connotations of American English words - 06/04/2012 09:39:00 AM 871 Views
LOL! You don't say... - 06/04/2012 05:06:20 PM 775 Views
LOL u so mad - 06/04/2012 06:19:28 PM 771 Views
The prospect of "losing cred" is not going to stop me from speaking my mind. - 04/04/2012 10:30:03 PM 753 Views
My dear - 09/04/2012 01:07:34 PM 802 Views
LOL - 09/04/2012 01:57:53 PM 651 Views
guess what, it is a noun. *NM* - 04/04/2012 07:26:39 PM 634 Views
That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 08:19:02 PM 771 Views
well it's important that you say "female human" - 04/04/2012 09:28:45 PM 762 Views
Re: That's the first time I have ever heard/seen anyone say that. - 04/04/2012 10:48:07 PM 752 Views
wait, so now you're claiming it's a grammatical thing? *NM* - 04/04/2012 10:58:31 PM 756 Views
No, I have issues with words that begin with the letter f. - 04/04/2012 11:09:45 PM 785 Views
ooookay then. - 04/04/2012 11:11:23 PM 841 Views
Re: Stop using female as a noun! - 05/04/2012 02:18:47 PM 703 Views
If dislike of the use of female as a noun makes me crazy town, I'm not the only crazy in here. - 05/04/2012 05:59:16 PM 740 Views
For the record, I certainly don't think you're crazy town. - 05/04/2012 07:23:18 PM 755 Views
Oh, so now we're using 'dislike' instead of 'should'. It's funny how you fell back on that. - 06/04/2012 10:01:59 AM 772 Views
Fascinating. - 06/04/2012 09:54:47 PM 801 Views
Re: Fascinating. - 07/04/2012 03:54:26 AM 777 Views
Just in case (however slim that chance may be) you are genuinely interested in citations/references. - 07/04/2012 05:34:37 AM 777 Views
What a joke. Do you even know what grammar is? - 07/04/2012 05:57:40 AM 837 Views
Oh, come off it. This should be the point where you admit to being wrong. - 07/04/2012 12:11:07 PM 712 Views
Sorry, no. Read better. - 07/04/2012 02:23:10 PM 751 Views
*deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 06:38:08 PM 739 Views
Re: *deletes long reply* Let's focus on the essence here. - 07/04/2012 09:26:34 PM 841 Views
Aha, we found the problem - 09/04/2012 01:03:35 PM 826 Views
You're being disingenuous. - 09/04/2012 12:57:38 PM 753 Views
To be fair - 04/04/2012 02:37:25 PM 792 Views
You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 01:46:16 PM 816 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 02:23:33 PM 765 Views
Re: You didn't see thmovie? She is far from passive - 04/04/2012 07:51:46 PM 782 Views
This - 05/04/2012 12:20:04 AM 761 Views
I got half way through the review and got bored. - 04/04/2012 03:09:58 AM 736 Views
And it appears the writer of the article completely missed a central point of the story *spoilers* - 04/04/2012 05:44:40 AM 800 Views
I think that might be debatable - 05/04/2012 06:59:35 PM 775 Views
She still made plenty of choices and she did choose to kill. - 05/04/2012 07:13:47 PM 725 Views
The reviewer is kind of full of it, but makes a good point about the character - 04/04/2012 04:22:30 PM 824 Views
Out of curiosity (this off topic) - 04/04/2012 07:32:25 PM 722 Views
Rachel, of course. - 05/04/2012 12:17:41 AM 783 Views
Well. Now I've actually seen it. (mild spoilers) - 09/04/2012 12:17:03 AM 836 Views