Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM
Of course no Fox exec was going to stand up to George Lucas. He used that as a framing tool, as an example showing how he wanted to rework certain plot elements.
And the issue isn't "Oh if Episode 4 had this issue and was still good, therefore Episode 1 can do this and still be good." Saying "The original trilogy had poor characterization, therefore the prequels can have poor characterization" isn't an argument.
As for the stuff about Padme, I think his main point there was that the movie could have used more banter- "playfulness" is what he used, I think.
Which of his ideas do you disagree with? I liked his point about Darth Maul, that he would have made for a very effective villain instead of just a one-off lightsaber battle.
He was played by Ray Park. Nuff said. He's a grunt, a thug a henchman, no matter how powerful. Lucas had no plans with him, the reason he captures the imagination so much is that he's pretty much a blank slate suitable for projection of "cool" attributes. At that point, the Sith were playing a devious & subtle endgame of infiltration and subversion ( "Sidious" & "Tyrannus" being more appropriately suggestive names, rather than "Maul" ), and using scare tactics to create a scenario to take over and sandbag the Jedi. Maul might look all scary and intimidating, but there's not a lot he can do with that face, aside from be an executioner or intimidator. Even as a cog in the narrative, he no longer fits, because it's about the subversion and temptation of Anakin Skywalker. There's no role for a back-flipping, gimmick-sword-wielding devil-faced thug in that story. Count Dooku serves as a cautionary warning, and his defeat costs Anakin, being another step down the path to the Dark Side. Palpatine/Sidious, of course, is obvious in his role, and much better realized than in the original trilogy, IMO. In fact, his performance and characterization in the prequels flesh out his character in RotJ and actually make his actions and motivations more plausible. There was a lot of confusion back in the 80s about why he would openly encourage his potential recruit to kill his right-hand man and most valuable henchman... until you see that's how he got Vader in the first place. And the issue isn't "Oh if Episode 4 had this issue and was still good, therefore Episode 1 can do this and still be good." Saying "The original trilogy had poor characterization, therefore the prequels can have poor characterization" isn't an argument.
As for the stuff about Padme, I think his main point there was that the movie could have used more banter- "playfulness" is what he used, I think.
Which of his ideas do you disagree with? I liked his point about Darth Maul, that he would have made for a very effective villain instead of just a one-off lightsaber battle.
I also like his idea about having increasing focus on Obi-Wan, at least for the first movie. Sure, the prequels are billed as "Anakin's rise and fall," but can you honestly say that little 9 year old made a good main character? Much better to have the kid farther in the background, and have the character of Anakin be focused on more in the next two movies.
I agreed with his briefly mentioned idea of Anakin being a teenager in the first one, but I think Obi-Wan, like Yoda, works better as a mentor figure for both trilogies, or at most, the Han Solo (albeit of a very different character and type) to Anakin's Luke.By the way, do you post in the comments of Cinnamon Bunzuh?
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What if Episode 1 was good?
28/02/2012 05:11:40 AM
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Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 01:51:50 PM
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Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 02:12:37 PM
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Are you talking about the guy with the deep thick voice who affects a stupid tone?
28/02/2012 06:29:15 PM
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Errrr you're not really addressing the video
28/02/2012 02:55:46 PM
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Re: Errrr you're not really addressing the video
28/02/2012 04:22:16 PM
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Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation?
28/02/2012 07:42:43 PM
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Qui-Gon is the protagonist if you absolutely need one (though I don't know why you do)
28/02/2012 10:59:23 PM
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Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point
28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM
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Hah, I do!
28/02/2012 07:55:52 PM
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Re: Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point
15/03/2012 02:10:17 PM
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Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM
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I'd really like to see some discussion with Lucas being challenged
28/02/2012 08:05:16 PM
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There is little to none canon that doesn't get signed by Lucas and his little helpers
28/02/2012 10:30:34 PM
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Re: There is little to none canon that doesn't get signed by Lucas and his little helpers
29/02/2012 12:48:54 AM
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I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex
29/02/2012 06:42:37 PM
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Re: I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex
02/03/2012 06:06:48 PM
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I thought the Padme-Anakin relationship was kind of plausible, just not addressed well in the films
02/03/2012 08:52:52 PM
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Who here thinks they could make a better Episode I ?
06/03/2012 06:43:58 PM
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