Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
DomA Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM
One of the complaints about sequels is how they are just the same movie repackaged. What this guy is proposing is to give Star Wars the Hangover 2 treatment. Also the idea that there is any movie executive, anywhere, who can stand up to George Lucas when he's throwing his proverbial creative weight around is equally ridiculous. You know how that conversation would go? Remember early in the Phantom Menance, when one of the Nemoidians argues with Darth Sidious who tells the viceroy, "I don't want to see this stunted worm in my sight again." And the objector hangs his head, slinks away and is never seen again. That's basically the meeting where this pompous tool tells George Lucas how he's going to fix Lucas' passion project. And the other Fox execs would beat him up too, because $$$$$$$$$$$.
According to biographers (and friends like Coppola) that's indeed the MPAA and the movies unions that inspired Lucas his Empire back in the mid-seventies. That, and Nixon, and the Third Reich. Lucas doesn't like Hollywood, and Hollywood doesn't like Lucas. He even broke from the Directors' Guild before ANH because of the union regulations that would have forced him to put opening credits on the movie.
But the success of the first movie has freed Lucas from all creative constraints but his own, essentially financial. Lucas financed the movies with his own money, and hired himself a producer (McCallum) who had the reputation (credentials, from his work on the Young Indy series and the SW restoration project) to be able to keep production costs as low as possible without compromising quality, and who wouldn't let him go over-budget. Same on ILM's side - Lucas didn't want them to lose a cent working on SW - Lucasfilms paid full price for the services of ILM for SW (though Lucas "cheated" by investing from his other pocket so ILM developped the technologies he needed for the prequels).
Fox Studios are not even involved in any way with the prequels (or ESB/ROTJ). The studio behind the movies is Lucasfilm, Lucas' own company, and virtually all the service providers involved (VFX, Sound etc.) were part of Lucas' empire. He's the writer-director, the head of the studio and the head of the services companies. He's the head "movie exec" on his own films, a one-man mini-Hollywood.
The Star Wars prequels are the biggest independant movies ever made. They were produced with the same creative freedom and with the same process as auteur cinema, just with the budget to produce about anywhere from 500 to 1000 such movies.
It's strictly the distribution branch of Twentieth Century Fox that's involved in SW. They have zero say in the creative process (no more than they do for any movie, not even those made by their Fox sister-company), they have zero say even in the marketing of the movies, which is also the responsability of the studio (here, the marketing branch of Lucasfilm), and most importantly, they had no money invested in SW. Lucas merely hired Fox' services to put his movies in theaters, to negotiate his foreign deals, and later for distribution on the home market worlwide. Unlike most independant movies, Lucas didn't sell his movies to his distributor, he rather paid for the distribution services (a fixed price or a small percentage, no one knows). And Fox distributed the prequels under several constraints from its client, for instance Lucasfilm insisted for TXH-approved theaters, meaning screening rooms with the THX technology (yet another branch of Lucas' empire) in place and that had passed the THX bi-annual inspection.
Not that Lucas wasn't challenged creatively by his collaborators. He was, and he wanted to. But he had the last word on everything. Those "exec" that could force him to change this or that simply didn't exist.
What if Episode 1 was good?
28/02/2012 05:11:40 AM
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Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 01:51:50 PM
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Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 02:12:37 PM
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Are you talking about the guy with the deep thick voice who affects a stupid tone?
28/02/2012 06:29:15 PM
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Errrr you're not really addressing the video
28/02/2012 02:55:46 PM
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Re: Errrr you're not really addressing the video
28/02/2012 04:22:16 PM
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Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation?
28/02/2012 07:42:43 PM
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Qui-Gon is the protagonist if you absolutely need one (though I don't know why you do)
28/02/2012 10:59:23 PM
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Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point
28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM
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Hah, I do!
28/02/2012 07:55:52 PM
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Re: Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point
15/03/2012 02:10:17 PM
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Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid
28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM
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I'd really like to see some discussion with Lucas being challenged
28/02/2012 08:05:16 PM
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There is little to none canon that doesn't get signed by Lucas and his little helpers
28/02/2012 10:30:34 PM
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Re: There is little to none canon that doesn't get signed by Lucas and his little helpers
29/02/2012 12:48:54 AM
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I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex
29/02/2012 06:42:37 PM
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Re: I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex
02/03/2012 06:06:48 PM
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I thought the Padme-Anakin relationship was kind of plausible, just not addressed well in the films
02/03/2012 08:52:52 PM
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Who here thinks they could make a better Episode I ?
06/03/2012 06:43:58 PM
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