Active Users:470 Time:27/12/2024 12:54:36 AM
Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid DomA Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM
One of the complaints about sequels is how they are just the same movie repackaged. What this guy is proposing is to give Star Wars the Hangover 2 treatment. Also the idea that there is any movie executive, anywhere, who can stand up to George Lucas when he's throwing his proverbial creative weight around is equally ridiculous. You know how that conversation would go? Remember early in the Phantom Menance, when one of the Nemoidians argues with Darth Sidious who tells the viceroy, "I don't want to see this stunted worm in my sight again." And the objector hangs his head, slinks away and is never seen again. That's basically the meeting where this pompous tool tells George Lucas how he's going to fix Lucas' passion project. And the other Fox execs would beat him up too, because $$$$$$$$$$$.


According to biographers (and friends like Coppola) that's indeed the MPAA and the movies unions that inspired Lucas his Empire back in the mid-seventies. That, and Nixon, and the Third Reich. Lucas doesn't like Hollywood, and Hollywood doesn't like Lucas. He even broke from the Directors' Guild before ANH because of the union regulations that would have forced him to put opening credits on the movie.

But the success of the first movie has freed Lucas from all creative constraints but his own, essentially financial. Lucas financed the movies with his own money, and hired himself a producer (McCallum) who had the reputation (credentials, from his work on the Young Indy series and the SW restoration project) to be able to keep production costs as low as possible without compromising quality, and who wouldn't let him go over-budget. Same on ILM's side - Lucas didn't want them to lose a cent working on SW - Lucasfilms paid full price for the services of ILM for SW (though Lucas "cheated" by investing from his other pocket so ILM developped the technologies he needed for the prequels).

Fox Studios are not even involved in any way with the prequels (or ESB/ROTJ). The studio behind the movies is Lucasfilm, Lucas' own company, and virtually all the service providers involved (VFX, Sound etc.) were part of Lucas' empire. He's the writer-director, the head of the studio and the head of the services companies. He's the head "movie exec" on his own films, a one-man mini-Hollywood.

The Star Wars prequels are the biggest independant movies ever made. They were produced with the same creative freedom and with the same process as auteur cinema, just with the budget to produce about anywhere from 500 to 1000 such movies.

It's strictly the distribution branch of Twentieth Century Fox that's involved in SW. They have zero say in the creative process (no more than they do for any movie, not even those made by their Fox sister-company), they have zero say even in the marketing of the movies, which is also the responsability of the studio (here, the marketing branch of Lucasfilm), and most importantly, they had no money invested in SW. Lucas merely hired Fox' services to put his movies in theaters, to negotiate his foreign deals, and later for distribution on the home market worlwide. Unlike most independant movies, Lucas didn't sell his movies to his distributor, he rather paid for the distribution services (a fixed price or a small percentage, no one knows). And Fox distributed the prequels under several constraints from its client, for instance Lucasfilm insisted for TXH-approved theaters, meaning screening rooms with the THX technology (yet another branch of Lucas' empire) in place and that had passed the THX bi-annual inspection.

Not that Lucas wasn't challenged creatively by his collaborators. He was, and he wanted to. But he had the last word on everything. Those "exec" that could force him to change this or that simply didn't exist.

Reply to message
What if Episode 1 was good? - 28/02/2012 05:11:40 AM 1067 Views
thank you. this is awesome. *NM* - 28/02/2012 05:47:36 AM 316 Views
He has some good points - 28/02/2012 11:32:49 AM 580 Views
Which were which? *NM* - 28/02/2012 02:46:40 PM 231 Views
Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid - 28/02/2012 01:51:50 PM 588 Views
Errrr you're not really addressing the video - 28/02/2012 02:55:46 PM 694 Views
Re: Errrr you're not really addressing the video - 28/02/2012 04:22:16 PM 732 Views
This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 06:54:00 PM 534 Views
Re: This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 11:27:02 PM 604 Views
Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 28/02/2012 07:42:43 PM 463 Views
Qui-Gon is the protagonist if you absolutely need one (though I don't know why you do) - 28/02/2012 10:59:23 PM 509 Views
Eh. It wasn't much of an "ensemble," either - 29/02/2012 06:23:23 PM 585 Views
You don't really need character development either - 29/02/2012 07:56:09 PM 573 Views
Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 12:16:51 AM 519 Views
Well said - 29/02/2012 08:39:36 AM 573 Views
Re: Well said - 02/03/2012 04:51:49 PM 555 Views
Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 06:33:07 PM 465 Views
Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point - 28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM 558 Views
Hah, I do! - 28/02/2012 07:55:52 PM 450 Views
Now I want Facebook posts for WoT - 29/02/2012 07:47:31 PM 624 Views
I just hate beets - 01/03/2012 05:18:41 PM 487 Views
Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid - 28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM 563 Views
I'd really like to see some discussion with Lucas being challenged - 28/02/2012 08:05:16 PM 561 Views
Who here thinks they could make a better Episode I ? - 06/03/2012 06:43:58 PM 460 Views
Of course they'd all raise their hands - 07/03/2012 12:34:30 PM 498 Views
The point was that there's nothing special about this guy. - 08/03/2012 01:02:32 AM 551 Views

Reply to Message