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Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Thank you. You would think this would be blindingly obvious, but apparently it bears repeating. I can see a half-hearted case for TTT being as good as FotR on account of it being based on such a hard book to make a movie out of, but RotK was the weakest of the three by a mile.
Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I actually liked the endings better than much of the rest, and as I said still haven't seen Casablanca, but yes.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1529 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 938 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 852 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 941 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 901 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 812 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 814 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 700 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 817 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1119 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 748 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 850 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 833 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 797 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 835 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 423 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 928 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 777 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 909 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 784 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 809 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1123 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 783 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 428 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 754 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 442 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 863 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 766 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 791 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 886 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 933 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 872 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 773 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 809 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 900 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 866 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 763 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 787 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 756 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 850 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 848 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 784 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 710 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 389 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 747 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 832 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 740 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 885 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 675 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 739 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 684 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 841 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 743 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 748 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 721 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 788 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 772 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 828 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 731 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 689 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 710 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 702 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 833 Views
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