It's the Force, stupid. - Edit 1
Before modification by Cannoli at 25/08/2011 07:33:46 PM
5. The Subtle Vader-like Qualities of Anakin
It’s pretty easy, and sometimes too fun to take pot shots at Hayden Christensen’s portrayal of Anakin Skywalker. I’m going to go ahead and say I like it. And I like it because it’s perfectly bizarre. And though I maybe didn’t picture Anakin that way before, I have to now. I mean, what a weird guy, right? It would take a pretty big weirdo to become Darth Vader, and Anakin is super weird and creepy. The way Hayden plays him is that he’s sort of like Mark Zuckerburg or something, which is actually terrifying. But unlike Zuckerburg, Anakin is always being pushed around by some kind of official group of people who want to put him in a box for, like, his entire life. In the prequels the Jedi council is pretty much 75% responsible for him turning to the dark side, insofar as they treat him like shit. I mean, they basically tell this poor kid from the word “go” that he totally sucks, even though everybody knows that he doesn’t.
This is echoed in A New Hope when the Imperial officers at the big board meeting start talking shit to Vader TO HIS FACE. It’s like it doesn’t matter how much cool stuff Anakin/Vader does, people are always trying to discredit him. Part of this is because Anakin is socially dysfunctional, and part of that comes from being micro-managed by everyone since he was a little kid. When Vader is micro-managed by Tarkin, and later the Emperor in the classic films, we can now think of how Hayden Christensen was getting the same kind of crap from Mace Windu when he was in his twenties. Bottom line: Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader has always been one of the most talented people in the room, and everyone hates him for it. It makes sense that he’s openly choking people in Episode IV, and I think the little moments in Episodes II and III set it up better than a lot of fans admit.
Yes on the last sentence, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on what exactly they set up. I think the prequels do an excellent job of showing the transformation of a genuinely nice & generous little kid into a monster. How many mainstream or commercially successful works can ANYONE name that do that? They also do a good job of showing you the qualities he once possessed that make his redemption at the end plausible, and why the sudden discovery of the survival of his son would open him up to that. 4. Why is Luke Suddenly a Badass? /Luke’s Weird Ethics
Just why is Luke so much better at using the Force in Return of the Jedi than he was in The Empire Strikes Back? Maybe Obi-Wan left a bunch of Cliff’s Notes on Force-stuff in his house on Tatooine. Luke is using the Force to make one of those poor pig-faced guards gasp for breath when he waltzes into Jabba’s Palace. Did he learn how to do this because he reached a certain age?
The Force is not some inert energy source that passively does what you tell it to; the Masters in both trilogies always stress the guiding aspect, and the insights granted by it. The way to master the Force is not through lightsaber drills and lifting bigger and bigger things to increase your strength, or devising complex techniques to utilize the energy (like, for example, the One Power of WoT), it is through meditation and self-mastery. Notice how few practical skills we see Yoda teaching Luke, yet he almost manages to fight Vader straight-up for a little bit, from being barely able to move his lightsaber to his hand at the beginning of the movie. I think after the ass-whupping he got from Vader, he took a lot of time for self-examination and working on where he went wrong, and mastered his abilities that way.
Also, why doesn’t he just use this kind of crap on Vader and the Emperor when he shows up on the Death Star? I know!
You probably don't.
It’s because Luke has double standards. Luke lies to himself so much. Come on, he was there to confront Vader, but also to kill the Emperor.
Yes, kill & convert them. Not briefly choke them so they'll let him pass to be dealt with by their bosses. Here’s where his double standards become clear.
In his head, it’s okay if someone is killed by a spaceship blowing up a space station (i.e. what he did in A New Hope, what he claims the Rebels will do in Jedi.) But if he goes after the Emperor and stabs him personally with his lightsaber, then that’s turning to the dark side. Come on, Luke.
Come on, Ryan. You need to actually pay attention to the Force stuff. It has to do with how and why you use the Force. Using it to guide a torpedo has no implications in and of itself. Using the Force to destroy a space station aiming its planet-destroying gun at all your friends is a morally good action and completely justifiable. Abruptly stabbing an old guy sitting passively in his chair, when they are all going to be blown up soon, and without a chance of affecting the outcome of the battle with his friends, is way more Dark-sidey.Basically, Luke is in the clear in Jabba's palace, because he was on a rescue mission and gave Jabba every chance to resolve matters peacefully. He only turned to the Force when they initiated his execution. Assassinating a guy is a whole other kettle of fish. That entire scene in the Emperor's throne room was NOT about the lightsaber duel. Yes, it was cool to watch, but the duel was merely the setting for the moral conflict between Luke and Vader. Vader and the Emperor were both trying to play Luke and make him their Sith apprentice and turn him against the other, while Luke was trying to turn Vader from the Emperor. That's why he threw aside his lightsaber and defied the Emperor - that was his final victory and the reason the Emperor finally tried to kill him: he had won the spiritual fight, had found his moral high ground from which to resist the Dark Side's blandishments and was no longer a potentially useful minion. "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never attack." Obviously Yoda did not mean a Jedi never strikes to kill, or goes on the tactical offensive, but that he never uses the Force to initiate a conflict, even for as good a cause as ridding the galaxy of evil-doers. By using the Force that way, he would just become another dark-sider.
At least Anakin doesn’t kid himself that murder is murder. When Anakin kills, he kills everyone!
And which one turned to the Dark Side and which one resisted the temptation. QED.Luke does this same thing and gets a medal.
Anakin indiscriminately slaughtered people in their home, with no immediate good or defensive purpose. Luke destroyed a military vessel, full of military personnel, and prevented it from destroying an inhabited planet. Any innocents who may have been aboard were no more his fault than any other circumstance where a military hero destroys an enemy vessel. Then he teases the Emperor about it, saying “soon I’ll be dead and you with me.”
He was not taunting, he was refuting the Emperor's claims of his turning.Anakin kills a bunch of people and then feels fucking awful. FOREVER.
It's called murder. He should.'Luke also kills everyone on Jabba’s Sail Barge by blowing it up. Was that necessary?
Yes. What with them mostly being criminals and other people who were seeking to imprison him and his friends. What should he have done? Let them pursue them all the way back to their ships? He offered them a peaceful resolution, but they all chose to follow the giant slug and laugh at the second attempted murder of him. Once the battle was joined, he was perfectly justified. Even the Geneva Convention admits you don't have to take prisoners in the middle of a battle.Would Obi-Wan approve? In terms of body-count, Luke is probably tied with Anakin prior to Anakin turning to the dark side. Bigger hypocrite: Luke.
Biggest bullshitter: Ryan Britt. Body count means nothing. A serial rapist, thief and child-pimp might not have a single death on his conscience, but that does not make him better than an ace pilot with dozens of enemy planes shot down, or a military sniper with scores of combat kills. Also, how in the world does Luke have a higher body count than the co-commander of the Alderaan-destroying Death Star? How many temples full of children asking for his help did he slaughter without a word of demurral?