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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1735 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1079 Views
Yes, I kind of like Cersei as well..... trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:51:38 AM 930 Views
And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1176 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 871 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 865 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 877 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 939 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 880 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 837 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 694 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 801 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 741 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 381 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 429 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 781 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 356 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 394 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 906 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 728 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 726 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 789 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 752 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 754 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 765 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1017 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 833 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 787 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 715 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 941 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 891 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 792 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 734 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 750 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 832 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 688 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 695 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 913 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 665 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 782 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 794 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 729 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 808 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 744 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 700 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 724 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 761 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 714 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 385 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 728 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 899 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 659 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 728 Views
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