Re: This is Cannes we're talking about, not Hollywood.
DomA Send a noteboard - 21/05/2011 02:51:02 AM
People have been charged in recent years in France for similiar "humour", and it's not like it's the first time either that Von Trier "loses it" and act like a complete idiot, or a child-king given too much attention. It's like you just have to point cameras on him for Von Trier to say something out-of-place or provocative out of the blue, that has nothing to do with cinéma, beside..
Some might argue that's not so unlike his movies.
The Festival just killed it in the bud before a controversy started around the fact they let it slide (and we have no idea of the amount of grief and complaints they got yesterday for this press conference from anti-hatred groups, Jewish groups and offended participants. I don't imagine the "jokes" sit too well with all the Jewish directors and producers and distributors from all over the world present at the Cannes festival or the even more important movie market). There are massive amounts on money at stakes in Cannes, they need their media coverage focussed on the films, not on a iditiotic director highjacking attention with a stupid scandal. Von Trier is responsible for his "jokes" and his cinéma is not an excuse, not for the first time he embarassed the Festival. He just got what he deserved.
If you see the Cannes festival as a company that always keeps one eye or even both on its bottom line, then their reaction makes sense. If you take their claims to care more about the quality of cinema than about money seriously - and most people generally have been taking those claims seriously - not so much. They look foolish now, and they'll look doubly foolish when Von Trier either has a significant success in the future that he has to present at Berlin or Venice, or when they swallow their words and welcome him back. It's only if this should prove to be the end of Von Trier's career that they can get out of it unscathed, but that seems rather unlikely.
They got media attention for the wrong thing, certainly, but you would think it would be a fairly basic concept that you then obtain a quick apology and try to move on as fast as possible, instead of reacting in a way that is so manifestly checkbook-directed that you draw criticism for your decision on top of the criticism for the original incident.
It's not so well knwon in the general public (I work in the field), but Cannes is the biggest movie distribution market worldwide, in parallel to the Festival. All the buyers and sellers are there. Most yearly purchases of movies worldwide are done at Cannes (that excludes most of the American studios' movies - though Americans buyers are there - but it's true for all the rest).
It's a cultural thing, I guess. At Berlin it would have been even worse. By all accounts Von Trier's new movie is most ordinary and the French perceive his press conference as an out of place and completely unacceptable publicity stunt demonstrating a complete lack of judgement. Not the first time he does something like this, but this time it really got out of control. The move of the Festivcal seems puzzle the rest of the world (incl. the anglo american media that yesterday were baffled and wondering if this was humour or not, when the French who are more used to Von Trier got it was sick humour right away), but today it seems the anglo-saxons are all "oh.. he was joking, that's sick but he apologized" while the French (and francophone media, it's the same in Quebec) including the left like Liberation usually keen to defend freedom of expression all support pretty unanimously the decision of the Festival. Charlotte Gainsbourg (who's French and half-jewish) declined to comment beside saying she was satisfied with Von Trier's apologies (where he called himself an abject moron, but used an all too ironic tone), but she cancelled all her further promotional appearances for Von Trier's movie. Kirsten Dunst, who unlike the stoic Gainsbourg was the one whose face showed during the press conference she'd give millions to be somewhere else, did not. Cultural thing. The French humourist Dieudonné was declared persona non grata in Canada for indulging in the same sort of "jokes" about being a Nazi. He split the opinion in France... until he became a candidate for Front National.
I dont' think this will harm the reputation of the Festival one bit. Some will disagree about the decision, but I doubt many, if any, will rise to defend Von Trier. His movies have not been banned, by the way, only Von Trier himself is banned from ver appearing at the Festival (he can even come to Cannes and speak to the media, just not at events tied to the Festival). The question is more if Von Trier will decide not to submit future his movies to the Festival. He didn't seem particularly outraged about the ban - he's the kind to at lest half wear it as a badge of honour. And this is Cannes; the decision is the administation's, there's not telling what the totally independent jury will do, this year or in the future.
This message last edited by DomA on 21/05/2011 at 03:33:25 AM
Lars Von Trier is a Nazi
18/05/2011 11:59:13 PM
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Hahah just reading this reminds me of someone making an accidentally awkward joke at a party
19/05/2011 03:02:25 AM
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Well, given all the communists in the entertainment industry, some balance is nice *NM*
19/05/2011 01:05:08 PM
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From what I've seen of Von Trier's movies, he probably IS a communist. *NM*
19/05/2011 07:57:12 PM
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Considering Nazi = National-Socialist-Labor, there really isn't going to be much difference
19/05/2011 11:57:36 PM
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No they arn't. Dont confuse nazi idealogy with shit nazis said to get elected. *NM*
22/05/2011 09:50:35 PM
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Propagana, racial persecution, prison camps, dictators, crackpot economic theories, what's the diff? *NM*
24/05/2011 03:12:43 AM
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Wow, and the Cannes organisators react in a completely ridiculous way...
19/05/2011 08:04:25 PM
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Seriously, that is pretty absurd
19/05/2011 08:29:25 PM
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Agreed on both counts, and it's all the more absurd because he's one of their darlings. *NM*
19/05/2011 10:03:24 PM
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Meh. The day the French prove effective at keeping Nazis out is the day that might be relevant *NM*
19/05/2011 11:58:31 PM
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Re: Wow, and the Cannes organisators react in a completely ridiculous way...
20/05/2011 12:40:01 PM
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This is Cannes we're talking about, not Hollywood.
20/05/2011 10:46:09 PM
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Re: This is Cannes we're talking about, not Hollywood.
21/05/2011 02:51:02 AM
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I got more of an impression that he was making a completely out of context remark that backfired
23/05/2011 01:12:08 PM
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Re: I got more of an impression that he was making a completely out of context remark that backfired
23/05/2011 03:02:01 PM
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Well then, he's just someone who should really rather never be interviewed *NM*
24/05/2011 07:49:11 AM
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