The case that decided information can't be stolen dates from 1987.
Tim Send a noteboard - 20/01/2011 09:35:31 AM
Grant v Allan 1987 JC 71. In short, an employee was prosecuted for making copies of confidential information to sell to his employer's business rivals. He said "this isn't a crime", and the sheriff (first-instance judge) rejected his argument, but on appeal the High Court said he was right.
By the way, in Scots criminal law the prosecution doesn't have to name the crime it thinks you've committed. It just has to say what it claims you did, and if the charge discloses any crime, it will be relevant. In this case that is precisely how the prosecution went about it: they didn't mention the word "theft" at all. So what this case means is that copying confidential information isn't a crime at all, not just that it isn't theft.
However, it is totally uncontroversial that what he allegedly did constituted the delict of "breach of confidence".
(You'll note that I didn't say he actually did it. This is because he successfully defended himself by saying "what I'm accused of isn't a crime", so the prosecution never got a chance to prove he did it.)
By the way, in Scots criminal law the prosecution doesn't have to name the crime it thinks you've committed. It just has to say what it claims you did, and if the charge discloses any crime, it will be relevant. In this case that is precisely how the prosecution went about it: they didn't mention the word "theft" at all. So what this case means is that copying confidential information isn't a crime at all, not just that it isn't theft.
However, it is totally uncontroversial that what he allegedly did constituted the delict of "breach of confidence".
(You'll note that I didn't say he actually did it. This is because he successfully defended himself by saying "what I'm accused of isn't a crime", so the prosecution never got a chance to prove he did it.)
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Why is downloading "illegally" really illegal?
19/01/2011 03:30:57 PM
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you can't legally record and distribute TV shows
19/01/2011 05:21:06 PM
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Re: you can't legally record and distribute TV shows
19/01/2011 09:52:48 PM
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Many shows (especially sports) forbid the duplication of said show in a statement or the credits.
20/01/2011 03:22:10 AM
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I haven't been able to read the credits for TV shows in years.
20/01/2011 03:51:40 AM
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Ignorance of the law is not a valid defence *NM*
21/01/2011 01:21:25 PM
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How do you figure that?
21/01/2011 02:08:13 PM
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Re: How do you figure that?
22/01/2011 08:33:04 PM
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A lot of it's volume.
19/01/2011 05:32:03 PM
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Your argument lacks merit.
19/01/2011 05:50:11 PM
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Both terms lack accuracy in this case really.
19/01/2011 06:37:29 PM
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We need to distinguish between a crime and a tort.
19/01/2011 10:17:30 PM
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Very interesting.
19/01/2011 10:28:35 PM
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Another scrabble word for you is "delict". That's what we call tort in Scotland.
19/01/2011 10:37:08 PM
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Very nice legal overview, also I like Scotland's approach a lot
19/01/2011 11:21:47 PM
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The case that decided information can't be stolen dates from 1987.
20/01/2011 09:35:31 AM
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Unfortunately, damages can result in thousands of dollars for one song
22/01/2011 08:19:40 PM
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Here's the US answer on the VCR thing, and how it relates to today's copyright problems
19/01/2011 11:35:31 PM
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Re: Here's the US answer on the VCR thing, and how it relates to today's copyright problems *NM*
19/01/2011 11:37:56 PM
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Re: Here's the US answer on the VCR thing, and how it relates to today's copyright problems
20/01/2011 12:49:55 AM
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