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Something's wrong witg your settings, or you have a perception problem.... DomA Send a noteboard - 26/12/2010 08:36:07 PM
I've watched some TV shows in HD a few times, but I can't see any major differences that make me say, "Holy shit! That's so much better than standard definition!" The only differences that I've seen are the picture is brighter and the volume is lower. What's the big deal?

Yes, I do have the HD channels, and, yes, I'm sure I was on the HD channel. I'm sure that my TV is an HDTV also. It's an LG 37LD450- 37 inch High Definition 1080p LCD TV.


While "testing", make sure you're watching shows shot in HD, not SD shows upscaled for broadcast on a HD channel. SD shows on a HD TV are noticeably worse than broadcasts on a SD TV (for the good reason that they've been blown to twice their vertical size).Don't pick news shows or sitcoms either. They're shot in HD, but they're still technically rushed.

Also make sure your set-ups are right for HD. If you watch HD shows in Zoom/Grand Zoom modes ON, no wonder you don't find them as good as they could be.

Another cause is that you're used to watching SD on cable or satellite, on a fairly small TV (24" and less), and now you've switched to HD on a fairly big one. The rules haven't changed: the smaller the TV set, the smaller the pixels, the more the image is perceived as sharp (and in HD, the bigger the TV, the more high quality you need to buy to keep a great picture. LG is average, but on a 37", it should still be very good.

Otherwise, the problem has to be with a poorer than usual perception of the image quality (you're not alone, I work in VFX/postproduction and we see it with clients from time to time. They just can't judge properly image quality, might confuse the SD stuff compressed for editing with the final HD output and so on, even when it's plain as day shich is which to nearly anyone else. And it's not a matter of experience, just poor perception). There's really no mistaking SD and HD resolutions, normally. HD TV has over twice the vertical information (1080 lines instead of 486) and well over twice the horizontal information (1920 instead of 720 pixels) and isn't afflicted by the many problems of the SD NTSC signal, that could make it blurry or distorted or bad at rendering contrasts below and above certain ranges.
So yeah, there's a huge and very noticeable difference, increased even more by the switch to completely lossless digital production/postproduction and film transfer (before consumer HD got widespread, the few last years of SD had been done with digital systems and tapes, but the image was most often than not still compressed, sometimes heavily. With HD, it can still be compressed for broadcast or by cable, but only extremely rarely is it compressed during postproduction anymore.).

HD TV isn't technically "brighter", that's mostly your TV set. There's more definition in the bright areas, however, and in production since HD, we use a lot more the darker and brighter tones and bright saturated colors as they're no longer problematic, the way they used to be in the crappy NTSC signal days.


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HD. What's the deal? - 20/12/2010 06:27:40 PM 1435 Views
I used to work at a cable company. A few things: - 20/12/2010 06:53:15 PM 938 Views
Re: I used to work at a cable company. A few things: - 20/12/2010 07:42:11 PM 1023 Views
Hm, ok. - 20/12/2010 09:22:46 PM 1016 Views
Re: Hm, ok. - 20/12/2010 10:45:39 PM 977 Views
Then yeah, I'd say give the cable company a quick call. - 21/12/2010 05:15:53 PM 852 Views
Re: Filling the entire screen - 20/12/2010 09:59:35 PM 909 Views
If the picture isn't filling the screen, then it's not HD - 21/12/2010 04:06:27 AM 986 Views
You're correct. A little bit of clarification, though. - 21/12/2010 06:26:57 PM 985 Views
Definitely true. I oversimplified a bit, sorry *NM* - 22/12/2010 01:24:51 AM 453 Views
Time for a new eye glasses exam *NM* - 20/12/2010 08:01:29 PM 454 Views
Re: Time for a new eye glasses exam - 20/12/2010 08:22:21 PM 937 Views
Well damn... - 20/12/2010 09:33:58 PM 816 Views
If you have to ask.... - 20/12/2010 09:36:01 PM 925 Views
Re: If you have to ask.... - 20/12/2010 10:48:00 PM 782 Views
Disagreeing just to disagree. - 20/12/2010 11:01:32 PM 825 Views
To me, it sounds like the shows you are watching dont need HD. - 20/12/2010 11:08:33 PM 814 Views
I can see the wrinkles and nose hairs much more clearly. I am not necessarily keen on HD. TMI. *NM* - 21/12/2010 12:43:59 AM 419 Views
Re: I can see the wrinkles and nose hairs much more clearly. I am not necessarily keen on HD. TMI. - 21/12/2010 11:10:29 AM 765 Views
You can't see them on your regular TV? - 23/12/2010 12:25:26 AM 734 Views
Actually I would. - 23/12/2010 12:29:55 AM 833 Views
The deal is... you've gone crazy! - 21/12/2010 04:45:33 AM 1202 Views
The only Blu-Ray I've seen is those in the stores comparing that to DVD. - 21/12/2010 04:48:04 AM 908 Views
No one seems to have asked you this yet. - 21/12/2010 05:56:55 PM 1018 Views
Re: No one seems to have asked you this yet. - 21/12/2010 06:57:42 PM 839 Views
Well then I give up. - 21/12/2010 07:16:05 PM 864 Views
Since everyone else seems to think you're weird or offbase... - 21/12/2010 11:35:42 PM 890 Views
Glad to hear it. - 21/12/2010 11:41:35 PM 784 Views
Thirded. - 22/12/2010 05:13:08 AM 849 Views
weird - 22/12/2010 04:17:24 PM 814 Views
No. - 22/12/2010 05:19:40 PM 780 Views
I'm with you, dude. - 22/12/2010 07:12:24 AM 748 Views
Have you let your horse at the special mushroom patch again? - 22/12/2010 02:40:21 PM 895 Views
Re: Have you let your horse at the special mushroom patch again? - 22/12/2010 03:23:52 PM 878 Views
Well. . .sort of. - 22/12/2010 04:26:47 PM 885 Views
Damn! - 22/12/2010 03:16:39 PM 775 Views
Something's wrong witg your settings, or you have a perception problem.... - 26/12/2010 08:36:07 PM 966 Views
well for me - 28/12/2010 10:44:02 AM 806 Views
So... My conclusions from this discussion. - 28/12/2010 03:03:13 PM 838 Views
I've seen people with the exact same problem as you before - 30/12/2010 12:25:00 AM 775 Views
So I'm an idiot for not believing in the all mighty power of the HDTV? - 30/12/2010 12:31:44 AM 863 Views
No... - 30/12/2010 02:05:18 PM 798 Views
Every one is entitled to their opinion. Enjoy yours. *NM* - 30/12/2010 02:12:06 PM 443 Views
And chickens lay eggs... - 03/01/2011 08:44:42 AM 793 Views

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