I created a strong argument, built out of the bricks of impeccable logic and the mortar of intuition, brought together with the trowel of Wisdom.
Alas, Cassandra-like, my cries were to no avail, and as such I sit here, witnessing the results of the grisly events of the last 24 hours.
As beautiful as this metaphor is, I find it rather dubious indeed. There simply was not enough solid evidence to be sure of F-T's innocence Yesterday. I'd buy that you had a feeling or intuition that he was Town, but I am not so sure about bricks of impeccable logic. Pillars of Overly Confident Sand, maybe.
So, yeah, my own defense is similar to the one I made for yesterday- no DF would go out of their way to call as much attention to themselves as FT or I did. If I was truly a DF, I would have "changed my mind" in the end, rationalizing it as "at least we'll learn something."
Now you're just WIFOM-ing. It might be a great DF tactic to defend F-T all day if you were confident that the Town was going to Lynch him in the end without your help. And let's be fair here, it's highly unlikely we were going to Lynch anyone else. Not on Day 1.
*cough, turns head to stare at others who killed F-T yesterday*
Insert theme music here.
Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2 is over.
08/02/2010 06:53:53 PM
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Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion
08/02/2010 08:53:49 PM
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Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion
08/02/2010 09:28:57 PM
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Hey, by the way, are you Mafia?
08/02/2010 09:34:46 PM
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I am not Hopper
08/02/2010 10:37:55 PM
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Maybe I am AWESOME
08/02/2010 11:19:48 PM
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Now that's a questionable claim.
09/02/2010 02:36:25 AM
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A few questions and comments
08/02/2010 09:29:06 PM
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Re: Well, I guess I'll kick off this discussion
09/02/2010 02:47:03 AM
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RBIRL ... test tomorrow. Probably not going to post tonight. *NM*
09/02/2010 12:03:38 AM
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You know what?
09/02/2010 01:17:52 AM
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Re: You know what?
09/02/2010 01:34:42 AM
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Heh, inorganic chemistry.
09/02/2010 01:57:39 AM
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Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry.
09/02/2010 02:38:45 AM
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Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry.
09/02/2010 03:29:32 AM
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Re: Heh, inorganic chemistry.
09/02/2010 03:36:28 AM
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Well thanks for the encouragement.
09/02/2010 04:14:50 AM
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Heh, Mafia: Other than the occasional lynching or assassination, we're one big supportive family.
09/02/2010 04:24:26 AM
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Hypocop (Table)
09/02/2010 12:59:06 AM
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I investigated Fox and Ravens and found hi to be for the shadow. *NM*
09/02/2010 04:46:50 AM
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Hmmm,
09/02/2010 06:18:29 AM
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We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles?
09/02/2010 06:35:05 AM
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Re: We didn't lose two of our biggest roles. Also- I wonder if there are more roles?
09/02/2010 07:16:19 AM
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Huh. Oh boy oh
09/02/2010 06:39:15 AM
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Care to give us your thoughts? *NM*
09/02/2010 07:26:09 AM
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Well, losing Doc and Deputy same night is bound to cause trouble. Especially losing Doc. *NM*
09/02/2010 08:54:49 AM
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I want to throw this out here.
09/02/2010 07:21:04 AM
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What changed your mind? *NM*
09/02/2010 08:58:09 AM
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Well, I realized I was the one telling everyone to just vote for someone.
09/02/2010 04:56:17 PM
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Why is everyone assuming we have a SK?
10/02/2010 12:09:47 AM
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What tips me off is the "melted plastic".
10/02/2010 12:22:56 AM
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That's so arbitrary, though.
10/02/2010 12:57:09 AM
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EBWOP: It's probably not a vigilante.
10/02/2010 01:05:57 AM
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That seems like good reasoning
10/02/2010 01:50:47 AM
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Re: That seems like good reasoning
10/02/2010 01:58:14 AM
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That's a vig rule? I did not know that
10/02/2010 08:16:56 PM
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Well, it's pretty common sense.
10/02/2010 09:09:09 PM
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I think he might have been referring to vigilante kills being blockable
10/02/2010 09:43:53 PM
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As the resident expert on vigilantism
10/02/2010 08:04:17 PM
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Youre the resident expert on vigilantism? *NM*
11/02/2010 11:06:24 PM
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He was a vig once or twice. *NM*
12/02/2010 01:33:57 AM
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Wait, haven't you proposed an arsonist most games. *NM*
10/02/2010 04:37:33 AM
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Because we have a SK *NM*
10/02/2010 05:14:00 AM
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wait a minute
10/02/2010 01:15:32 PM
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Another thing
10/02/2010 04:42:50 PM
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F-T, I assume
10/02/2010 05:08:58 PM
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Probably, might be a hint at an RB but I doubt it *NM*
10/02/2010 06:57:01 PM
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I don't think it could be a RB
10/02/2010 07:47:55 PM
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We're stalling out a bit
11/02/2010 10:05:09 PM
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We could talk about my heroic failure to defend the innocent some more? Fine...
12/02/2010 07:12:51 AM
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You seem engaged in a very active defense so far this game
12/02/2010 09:40:23 PM
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Yawn...
12/02/2010 11:28:50 PM
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Re: Yawn...
13/02/2010 12:32:30 AM
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Re: Yawn...
13/02/2010 01:31:41 AM
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He's brought up accusations on himself
13/02/2010 02:40:01 AM
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Alrighty, let's try this again.
14/02/2010 06:38:26 AM
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On F-T's accusations against you.
14/02/2010 01:54:20 AM
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Re: On F-T's accusations against you.
14/02/2010 03:43:52 AM
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That's right, I am the Breaker of Unbroken Records
14/02/2010 05:56:52 AM
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Actually, quite few of my streaks were broken on that one
14/02/2010 08:43:09 AM
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I'm in second? Woo!
14/02/2010 02:46:05 PM
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Yep, welcome to being a lightning rod
14/02/2010 09:10:43 PM
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I'm not gonna be as targeted as you; I've died a LOT.
14/02/2010 11:17:24 PM
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Ironically I don't think I've ever killed you
14/02/2010 11:56:03 PM
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Game 1 I remember.
15/02/2010 12:01:21 AM
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Re: Game 1 I remember.
15/02/2010 12:19:30 AM
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Three stalled out over the winter holidays and we had to restart.
15/02/2010 01:26:59 AM
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Actually...
15/02/2010 04:57:50 PM
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A second line of thought: ranagrande
12/02/2010 07:40:37 AM
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Vote: Hieshyn
15/02/2010 03:27:04 AM
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Re: Hieshyn
15/02/2010 12:54:42 PM
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Well, it's less that discussion is winding down, and more that we don't have any new topics
15/02/2010 05:48:22 PM
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Well this was unexpected.
15/02/2010 06:07:44 PM
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Re: Well this was unexpected.
15/02/2010 08:30:57 PM
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I think he's saying that he's been quiet because he's busy, not a DF
15/02/2010 08:39:53 PM
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If he was the SK
15/02/2010 07:55:38 PM
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Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession.
15/02/2010 08:53:03 PM
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Oh that's right!
15/02/2010 09:03:40 PM
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Re: Game 9 was F-T's Cairhienen Civil War/Succession.
15/02/2010 11:54:44 PM
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Lol irony
16/02/2010 12:16:49 AM
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So, it's just because he hasn't been talking much? That fits a lot of people
15/02/2010 09:31:02 PM
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OK, I'm glad that vote got some discussion flowing.
16/02/2010 02:58:55 AM
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Ooo sneaky sneaky
16/02/2010 03:58:37 AM
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Re: Ooo sneaky sneaky
16/02/2010 04:25:26 AM
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You know doing this sort of thing can get you lynched
16/02/2010 04:40:23 AM
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Oh, I know it can.
16/02/2010 05:23:13 AM
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Re: Oh, I know it can.
16/02/2010 07:00:53 AM
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It's weird- I've never played Live Mafia, but I imagine it's very different.
16/02/2010 08:58:09 AM
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I'm still here, I've been busy with studying, and hadn't realized I was gone this long.
16/02/2010 06:50:44 AM
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Sorry all. Friday thru Monday suddenly got really hectic, I wasn't home much at all.
18/02/2010 01:54:02 AM
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So, where are we at?
18/02/2010 02:40:32 AM
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EBWOP: Issac's maybe only a 5.5. No, a 5.7
18/02/2010 06:58:40 AM
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OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself
18/02/2010 07:08:36 AM
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Re: OK so I apparantly lack the technical know-how to reply to myself
18/02/2010 07:54:05 AM
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Well yeah, all of that is mostly why I haven't been pushing anything
18/02/2010 08:51:14 AM
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Uggggghhhh...Ok. This post makes me want to vote you off.
18/02/2010 03:28:19 PM
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You seem to have misunbderstood my question
18/02/2010 04:28:47 PM
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Re: You seem to have misunbderstood my question
18/02/2010 05:10:14 PM
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Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2
18/02/2010 05:25:49 PM
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Re: Nice little typo I have there on misundertood, that's gonna be nagging at me for all of Day 2
19/02/2010 04:45:25 AM
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Thanks, all right let's review it
19/02/2010 11:41:19 AM
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Alright then.
19/02/2010 05:20:39 PM
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EBWOP
19/02/2010 05:23:06 PM
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Re: EBWOP
19/02/2010 06:53:08 PM
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Naive?
19/02/2010 07:13:14 PM
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Naive or sinister, take your pick
19/02/2010 07:29:09 PM
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We could go with "arrogant," instead of either of those, if you like
20/02/2010 01:59:22 AM
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Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game...
19/02/2010 08:26:33 PM
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Re: Hmm...well here's something interesting now that you reminded me of that game...
19/02/2010 08:40:47 PM
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Re: EBWOP
19/02/2010 08:32:55 PM
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Re: EBWOP
19/02/2010 08:57:50 PM
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Actually, that reminds me. HEY KRONIN!
18/02/2010 07:09:39 AM
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Hey.
18/02/2010 04:09:08 PM
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Re: Hey.
18/02/2010 05:37:33 PM
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FT had no evidence one way or the other if Issac was a DF
18/02/2010 05:44:43 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth.
18/02/2010 06:03:55 PM
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Oh no, I know, I know. I'm just saying, FT has no more credibility than any of us *NM*
18/02/2010 07:48:58 PM
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But he IS a damn good player, and his advice, however limited, should be taken into account. *NM*
18/02/2010 07:49:58 PM
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fistofpainx, Do you have any thoughts?
18/02/2010 05:46:38 PM
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I think that
18/02/2010 09:45:56 PM
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Well, if my combine the Vote Record with our previous suspicions...
18/02/2010 09:48:24 PM
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All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you?
18/02/2010 11:32:07 PM
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Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you?
19/02/2010 03:01:45 AM
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Re: All right, ranagrande (and everyone else). Why shouldn't we lynch you?
19/02/2010 04:07:03 AM
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I think you're overestimating the appearance of your own innocence.
19/02/2010 05:38:53 AM
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Yeah, it's mostly just about getting the conversation going
19/02/2010 06:40:17 AM
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In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll)
19/02/2010 09:50:16 PM
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Re: In response to Fox and Ravens (down here to stop horizontal scroll)
19/02/2010 10:22:37 PM
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Well, the reason for the prohibition doesn't apply post-game, so I'll go with no
20/02/2010 05:07:38 AM
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After seeing this thread....
20/02/2010 05:53:47 AM
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Go ahead and start one then.
20/02/2010 06:08:12 AM
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Re: Go ahead and start one then.
20/02/2010 06:47:23 AM
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Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere?
20/02/2010 04:50:29 PM
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Re: Isaac, did you say you have Cor's original rules saved somewhere?
20/02/2010 05:16:09 PM
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Alright.
20/02/2010 05:43:51 PM
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Thanks
20/02/2010 07:48:20 PM
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Re: Thanks
20/02/2010 10:35:26 PM
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Ranagrande *NM*
21/02/2010 12:55:29 AM
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Really?
21/02/2010 01:58:24 AM
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Re: Thanks
21/02/2010 01:57:25 AM
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Well, you kind of said it yourself.
21/02/2010 07:38:32 PM
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I'm purposefully trying to not be so focussed on ranagrande
21/02/2010 11:06:40 PM
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Not sure I follow
22/02/2010 06:49:11 PM
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Items of note from my NB archive:
21/02/2010 09:37:49 PM
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I am kind of confused about what you're doing here.
22/02/2010 07:20:49 PM
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I'm feeling the same thing.
22/02/2010 07:36:46 PM
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I hadn't even seen Beet's post at the bottom there until after I'd posted this.
22/02/2010 07:44:49 PM
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Re: Rafo Mafia 4 Day 2
22/02/2010 12:09:20 PM
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Alright. Here's a quick synposis
22/02/2010 07:54:19 PM
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That sounds about right to me.
22/02/2010 07:58:29 PM
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I'll try to, I just may not have the time to. If I do, I'll definately read them all. *NM*
23/02/2010 07:05:24 AM
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Another minor piece against ranagrande
22/02/2010 07:13:44 PM
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Re: Another minor piece against ranagrande
22/02/2010 08:23:48 PM
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Fair enough
22/02/2010 08:38:51 PM
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Re: Fair enough
22/02/2010 09:07:57 PM
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Maybe I missed it....
22/02/2010 09:26:47 PM
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Re: Maybe I missed it....
23/02/2010 09:38:23 PM
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I will destroy the world
23/02/2010 11:17:26 PM
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And yet, that's the exact same thing you called me out on yesterday. *NM*
24/02/2010 01:07:07 AM
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Ok, that's totally different...
24/02/2010 06:36:00 AM
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All that's different is the presumed final intent.
24/02/2010 12:36:32 PM
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Yeah ... those are pretty much the same. *NM*
24/02/2010 03:17:25 PM
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Yea.... beet's looking worse and worse every time he opens his mouth, so to speak. *NM*
24/02/2010 09:00:47 PM
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No, this is my view:
24/02/2010 11:23:25 PM
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And my view was:
25/02/2010 01:29:13 AM
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shrug. I haven't been attacking you today, you know
25/02/2010 01:46:39 AM
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Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM*
24/02/2010 04:51:24 AM
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Can I ask why?
24/02/2010 05:06:22 AM
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We're sort of in a holding pattern here, Hieshyn
25/02/2010 07:01:23 PM
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You're right, Isaac.
25/02/2010 08:47:03 PM
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Though I presume this was already somewhat obvious, ^Seconded. *NM*
25/02/2010 08:56:19 PM
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I'll agree. Beet has been suspicious, and we havent found enough with ranagrande to continue *NM*
26/02/2010 02:00:36 AM
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At first I thought he was going for a F&R-style trap
26/02/2010 01:44:16 AM
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RBIRL. Had a lot of school stuff, gone for the weekend. Sorry. *NM*
27/02/2010 01:05:40 AM
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Sorry I've been insanely busy.
27/02/2010 03:33:43 AM
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This seems a lot like an OMGUS.
27/02/2010 07:02:12 AM
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Re: Sorry I've been insanely busy.
27/02/2010 07:06:39 AM
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Okay, let's try to finish off today
27/02/2010 07:27:09 PM
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Interesting.
27/02/2010 09:28:33 PM
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I sort of assumed everyone knew where I'm aiming, I've been pretty open about it
27/02/2010 09:45:50 PM
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Vote: ranagrande
27/02/2010 09:12:51 PM
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What, if anything, has changed?
28/02/2010 03:19:49 AM
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Dang, I didn't know you could make text larger. Fancy! *NM*
28/02/2010 04:57:28 AM
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A little joke
28/02/2010 05:16:14 AM
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Yikes (warning: lots of text)
28/02/2010 12:35:16 AM
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Guess I'll set up the other camp: Vote: beetnemesis
28/02/2010 03:22:49 AM
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my stance on voting
01/03/2010 03:08:33 AM
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Re: my stance on voting
01/03/2010 03:21:32 AM
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Perhaps a deadline would liven things up?
02/03/2010 08:46:35 PM
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I hope you all feel really guilty about this
03/03/2010 06:22:57 AM
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Not likely, we're pretty draconian about lynches these days
03/03/2010 09:15:00 AM
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..I can and HAVE rebutted these.
03/03/2010 05:15:32 PM
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EBWOP: I need to start hitting preview to make sure the formatting is right.
03/03/2010 05:18:43 PM
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I'm sorry, I am not convinced
03/03/2010 11:16:36 PM
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I figured it'd be meaningless to RC, but ok...
04/03/2010 01:54:36 AM
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All right, let's look at this
04/03/2010 02:06:58 AM
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I find this very, very, very, VERY unlikely.
04/03/2010 05:25:41 AM
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At this point I feel like anything I could say would only hurt my case
04/03/2010 06:34:43 AM
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You brought this upon yourself.
03/03/2010 01:06:58 PM
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Are you a Town Roleblocker? (Table) - Summary: All 'No'
04/03/2010 02:28:55 AM
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Well, I don't think there is much point in further delay
04/03/2010 11:44:57 PM
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I think that's everyone.
05/03/2010 04:39:23 AM
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Well, Beet already hammered.
05/03/2010 06:44:08 AM
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Beetnemesis has been lynched
05/03/2010 05:38:05 PM
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Sorry Beet! *NM*
06/03/2010 05:11:56 AM
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You shall be the only one I don't haunt *NM*
06/03/2010 06:29:23 AM
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Yo, what did I do to you? *NM*
06/03/2010 06:47:51 PM
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I meant of those who lynched me! You shall be EXALTED!
06/03/2010 06:52:39 PM
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