Re: Day 1 no-lynch is a lose-lose tactic for the Light.
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 04:57:54 AM
It's hard when you're anti-day 1 lynch like I am. (I'm not getting into another discussion on this, FT). I'd elaborate but I'd be opening my mouth like I told myself not to. 

Day 1 No Lynch is a perfectly decent tactic, whenever your odds of lynching are roughly the same as random it makes sense, personally I'm against it today though.
You gain nothing, and lose something.
A day 1 no lynch has advantages, when you have no viable target to lynch, much like hypocopping it can hurt or help, depending on various factors. Personally, I'm against a no lynch today, that doesn't change the fact that sometimes it makes sense. The best thing you can get out of townie near-random lynch on day 1 is a vote record to use on the DFs later. I really can't think of a case where a random day 1 lynch benefited the town.
You do gain something too, the town has a cop, the cop can make an investigation, about 1 in 3 the cop IDs a DF, that alternate is he clears someone.
Which we only learn if the cop reveals himself. But never mind that, there is never real evidence for anybody on Day 1. Sometimes people think they are, but that can lead to cases like the lynching of Delmaradrid Saighan in whatever number game that was.
More often than not, players enter the second day with no better clues, and one less Lightsider. In case of a random lynch, at least there's a voting record to go by, and the reactions to it. And you're no worse off, because even if you do lynch a Lightsider, it doesn't actually reduce your number of chances at lynching a Darkfriend, as I demonstrated to Fox and Ravens last time.
Ultimately, it's the number of chances you get at lynching Darkfriends that counts, not the number of Lightsiders you have. If you only get two chances at finding the Darkfriend, it doesn't matter if you have five or five thousand Lightsiders - you still only get two chances. Heck, less might be better, because your probabilities are higher.
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Mafia Day one
30/08/2009 10:53:04 AM
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Vote tally
30/08/2009 11:10:18 AM
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Tee hee hee.
30/08/2009 11:18:09 AM
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OMGUS - Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM*
30/08/2009 03:03:21 PM
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All right - new usernames (table)
30/08/2009 03:35:59 PM
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Alrighty!!
30/08/2009 05:42:17 PM
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You should have changed you name to....
30/08/2009 06:52:46 PM
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Haha
30/08/2009 07:18:10 PM
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Well, I confirm that, I'm an Aes Sedai
30/08/2009 08:37:32 PM
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What I really think we should do....
30/08/2009 08:49:04 PM
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Okay, that's a bad idea
30/08/2009 08:52:42 PM
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So this means you owe me money, right?
30/08/2009 09:16:17 PM
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Re: So this means you owe me money, right?
30/08/2009 09:24:22 PM
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Technically
30/08/2009 09:27:29 PM
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Re: Technically
30/08/2009 09:42:16 PM
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See, now that we have others....
30/08/2009 10:09:00 PM
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No way, me too.
30/08/2009 11:15:01 PM
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Well, I might as well say it
31/08/2009 12:20:58 AM
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Maybe we should just lynch Isaac.
30/08/2009 07:32:50 PM
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Just to address that
30/08/2009 08:29:01 PM
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Re: Just to address that
30/08/2009 08:57:17 PM
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Re: Just to address that
30/08/2009 09:01:20 PM
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I'm going to facepalm
.
30/08/2009 09:22:57 PM
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LOL, you miss the point
30/08/2009 09:27:31 PM
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How does it do that?
30/08/2009 09:30:14 PM
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Re: How does it do that?
30/08/2009 10:02:33 PM
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Do you mean that since you can't lie, saying you're for the Tower proves your goodness?
31/08/2009 01:44:01 AM
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BTW
30/08/2009 08:43:16 PM
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I would suggest you do it anyway so they're at least saved on this site. *NM*
30/08/2009 10:07:26 PM
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I just sent myself the saved copy I had.
30/08/2009 10:17:46 PM
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Howdy
31/08/2009 04:42:47 PM
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I still can't see the fuss over Isaac's post
31/08/2009 05:25:14 PM
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It was a misunderstanding, I think
31/08/2009 06:07:54 PM
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^Read this^ Rather than the long discussion by Isaac and F-T
*NM*
31/08/2009 07:07:41 PM
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See, that looks pretty bad for you.
31/08/2009 07:37:28 PM
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I think I have to agree with that
31/08/2009 08:49:45 PM
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Re: I think I have to agree with that
31/08/2009 08:50:00 PM
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? Never double-posted that way before *NM*
31/08/2009 09:15:21 PM
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Congratulations of discovering new and exciting ways for us to embarrass ourselves
. *NM*
31/08/2009 09:42:49 PM
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Well,
31/08/2009 09:00:47 PM
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He said it was suspicious saying "For the Tower" as opposed to "For the Light".
31/08/2009 09:13:25 PM
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It does look suspicous at this point....
31/08/2009 09:54:56 PM
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I see what you mean but hardly agree with it
01/09/2009 02:05:07 AM
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It's the best we've got right now.
01/09/2009 02:44:20 AM
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I've done so much today. Hours of engineering and chem...again. *NM*
01/09/2009 02:57:08 AM
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I'm here
31/08/2009 06:16:40 PM
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What's with everyone switching their usernames to their real names? lol *NM*
31/08/2009 08:51:23 PM
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Might as well move along
01/09/2009 12:36:28 AM
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Okay.
01/09/2009 02:50:21 PM
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Well, WF has had two days to reply, but hasn't even tried to defend himself.
01/09/2009 03:24:11 PM
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I don't intend to let him get out of it either.
01/09/2009 03:45:31 PM
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Re: I don't intend to let him get out of it either.
01/09/2009 07:23:00 PM
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Well, it's easy to mount a defense after you've been told your error....
01/09/2009 07:26:29 PM
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Re: Well, it's easy to mount a defense after you've been told your error....
01/09/2009 07:36:31 PM
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I don't want a repeat of Game 2.
01/09/2009 07:50:57 PM
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This is a good point.
01/09/2009 08:06:24 PM
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As soon as he starts getting accused...
01/09/2009 09:49:14 PM
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What you did was suspicious
01/09/2009 09:50:56 PM
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I wish wotmania were still alive....
01/09/2009 10:06:03 PM
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Yeah, and we cut you slack because you were a newbie.
01/09/2009 10:10:34 PM
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Oh, well...
01/09/2009 10:53:57 PM
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Well...it doesn't change what your doing
01/09/2009 11:02:48 PM
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to avoid loads of editing
01/09/2009 09:22:36 PM
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All right, I think we need to throw in the towel
01/09/2009 09:33:04 PM
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nuts
01/09/2009 09:48:11 PM
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Re: nuts
01/09/2009 10:24:36 PM
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*sigh*
01/09/2009 10:27:57 PM
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I still don't think we need to quit.
01/09/2009 10:31:30 PM
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Guess I'll vote for White Flame as well.
01/09/2009 11:46:00 PM
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Great. Everybody's going to be looking at me tomorrow if WF turns out to be a DF
02/09/2009 07:21:56 AM
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Re: Great. Everybody's going to be looking at me tomorrow if WF turns out to be a DF
02/09/2009 06:58:22 PM
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I think you should probably claim.
02/09/2009 08:24:02 PM
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I would add my 2 cents here but I'm telling myself to stay out of it.
02/09/2009 09:42:48 PM
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Re: I would add my 2 cents here but I'm telling myself to stay out of it.
02/09/2009 11:08:44 PM
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Day 1 no-lynch is a lose-lose tactic for the Light.
03/09/2009 03:24:43 AM
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Re: Day 1 no-lynch is a lose-lose tactic for the Light.
03/09/2009 03:59:05 AM
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Re: Day 1 no-lynch is a lose-lose tactic for the Light.
03/09/2009 04:57:54 AM
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Who are your warders?
02/09/2009 11:10:28 PM
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My claim
03/09/2009 05:04:26 PM
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Ok....
03/09/2009 05:08:25 PM
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It doesn't sound that outlandish to me.
03/09/2009 07:11:06 PM
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Nor I, but we now have some definite leads to work with
04/09/2009 05:13:18 AM
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I'm not a warder
04/09/2009 01:01:27 PM
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the situation so far
04/09/2009 06:02:36 PM
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Can you keep some kind of constant form for the vote counts?
04/09/2009 06:11:53 PM
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