Let's say worst case scenario, he's a jester, we lose, better to get it over with because any game that has a jester is almost guaranteed to result in the jester winning.
That's option 1, he's a jester, I say kill him and be done with, such being the case, I don't want the option lingering all game. I consider it a poor role anyway.
You're right, it's a pretty stupid role, and I can't see Kronin including it.
Option 2, he's a DF who think by saying he's a DF will make him less suspicious, not a bad strategy, but more importantly, not a bad strategy in the mind of a newer player, people have often employed poor tactics because they sounded better on the drawing board then the game MB. Killing him is advantageous.
Option 3, he's third party, a lone wolf or part of a whole coalition, killing him is advantageous.
Options two and three seem more improbable to me because it's such a risky strategy for a non-townie to employ. All he's done is drawn a ton of attention to himself which is what most mafia generally try to avoid. But I suppose that makes it a WIFOM thing, or an attempt at one or whatever.
Option 4, he's a townie who employed a bizarre tactic that doesn't just border on anti-town but jumps well into anti-town, losing him isn't too costly.
Consider the four options, versus the roughly 1 in 4 chance of randomly getting a DF on day 1, makes a pretty clear choice available.
Mostly, I don't like this tactic, and I don't want people pursuing it in the future, we've seen over and over again that lying as a townie tends to have anti-town results, I don't want to encourage it or endorse it. Forgiving players who try it and pull off a success is one thing, this is another, IMHO. At the very least, it's a serious distraction. I can not see any way it could hurt the DFs if he's a townie.
This is the most persuasive argument in my opinion. I generally think anyone caught lying should probably lynched ASAP, but I'll admit, I didn't think of Hopper's statement as a lie initially because it is such an outlandish and baffling claim. But I suppose you're right, and we're not going to really lose much whatever his alignment is. He's got my vote already. Let's see where this goes.
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RAFia in Space - Day 1 - Take Two
29/10/2009 02:45:16 AM
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Re: RAFia IN SPACE - ON HOLD
29/10/2009 02:04:32 PM
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I mass-NB the Vanilla message, so all Vanillas knew each other.
29/10/2009 03:29:48 PM
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That could have led to problems later even if the Vanillas remained unaware of each other.
30/10/2009 02:55:16 AM
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Actually, I was planning on just posting the Vanilla Message in the main thread. *NM*
30/10/2009 02:10:16 PM
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Here. *NM*
01/11/2009 11:06:39 PM
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Oh, and...
01/11/2009 11:08:31 PM
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There are probably gonna be quite a few more of those references in here.
01/11/2009 11:30:08 PM
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I had better not get killed by someone's brain
02/11/2009 02:14:01 AM
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So so so... what now?
02/11/2009 10:52:39 PM
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We need basic info
02/11/2009 11:30:07 PM
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For reference...
03/11/2009 12:51:52 AM
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All right then, let's get a strategy going
03/11/2009 01:26:17 AM
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Re: All right then, let's get a strategy going
03/11/2009 02:10:06 AM
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Ranagrade used that stuff, though. AND logic and reason
03/11/2009 04:13:13 AM
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I'm curious about your comment
03/11/2009 11:50:32 PM
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Humor doesn't always translate well in message-board land, sorry
04/11/2009 01:46:41 AM
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DO NOT DISCUSS PAST ROLE MESSAGES
03/11/2009 01:28:29 AM
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Well, I did already. Sorry
I could edit it away if it was okay? *NM*
03/11/2009 08:05:43 AM
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People would still be able to see it though. *NM*
03/11/2009 01:40:05 PM
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Re: People would still be able to see it though.
03/11/2009 07:11:35 PM
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Ah, I guess I'm just a cynic then.
03/11/2009 08:12:23 PM
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I asked him to do that already.
03/11/2009 08:48:17 PM
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Vote: Hopper Aes Sedai
03/11/2009 03:52:30 AM
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Hmm.
03/11/2009 04:58:37 AM
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Hmm indeed
03/11/2009 01:45:29 PM
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What's that Admiral Ackbar?
03/11/2009 03:34:25 PM
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It's a trap!
03/11/2009 06:05:58 PM
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Imitation crab meat!
03/11/2009 10:17:39 PM
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Give me a good reason and I'll think about it *NM*
03/11/2009 09:11:45 PM
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Yeah, I'd say this is almost grounds to specifically not lynch him
04/11/2009 01:49:03 AM
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But what if that's what he wants?
04/11/2009 01:54:57 AM
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He's a good candidate for lynching
04/11/2009 02:28:19 AM
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I doubt he's a jester.
04/11/2009 03:01:56 AM
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there could be a 5th option
04/11/2009 01:32:39 PM
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Roster (Table) - Last Update: 6:23 pm EST, Nov 3
03/11/2009 11:25:49 PM
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I dont really get it.............
04/11/2009 12:05:16 AM
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What don't you get?
04/11/2009 01:32:43 AM
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Round 1 is traditionally the time to settle old grudges, heh *NM*
04/11/2009 01:50:31 AM
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Instead of lynching
04/11/2009 01:04:51 AM
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Let's recycle them and turn them into food pellets! *NM*
04/11/2009 01:51:20 AM
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Alright, I guess I'll hammer.
04/11/2009 08:22:16 PM
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Hello, my name is Gher and I have a problem...
04/11/2009 08:26:03 PM
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RBIRL - till Sunday evening *NM*
06/11/2009 01:21:46 AM
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I'm on that too
06/11/2009 04:02:59 PM
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You're going to the NAC in Kansas City? *NM*
06/11/2009 04:52:11 PM
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Nope. It's in Haverford PA *NM*
06/11/2009 06:49:06 PM
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Ah. What weapon are you? *NM*
06/11/2009 09:27:02 PM
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Sabre! I tried out for the team on epee too but didn't do as well. *NM*
07/11/2009 04:45:28 AM
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Bah, epee is terrible.
07/11/2009 04:49:14 AM
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And foil isn't hopping around for 2-3 minutes? *NM*
08/11/2009 04:21:20 AM
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Foil's got much more action then epee.
08/11/2009 04:33:41 AM
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