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I doubt he's a jester. Darth_Katie Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 03:01:56 AM
Let's say worst case scenario, he's a jester, we lose, better to get it over with because any game that has a jester is almost guaranteed to result in the jester winning.

That's option 1, he's a jester, I say kill him and be done with, such being the case, I don't want the option lingering all game. I consider it a poor role anyway.


You're right, it's a pretty stupid role, and I can't see Kronin including it.

Option 2, he's a DF who think by saying he's a DF will make him less suspicious, not a bad strategy, but more importantly, not a bad strategy in the mind of a newer player, people have often employed poor tactics because they sounded better on the drawing board then the game MB. Killing him is advantageous.

Option 3, he's third party, a lone wolf or part of a whole coalition, killing him is advantageous.


Options two and three seem more improbable to me because it's such a risky strategy for a non-townie to employ. All he's done is drawn a ton of attention to himself which is what most mafia generally try to avoid. But I suppose that makes it a WIFOM thing, or an attempt at one or whatever.

Option 4, he's a townie who employed a bizarre tactic that doesn't just border on anti-town but jumps well into anti-town, losing him isn't too costly.

Consider the four options, versus the roughly 1 in 4 chance of randomly getting a DF on day 1, makes a pretty clear choice available.

Mostly, I don't like this tactic, and I don't want people pursuing it in the future, we've seen over and over again that lying as a townie tends to have anti-town results, I don't want to encourage it or endorse it. Forgiving players who try it and pull off a success is one thing, this is another, IMHO. At the very least, it's a serious distraction. I can not see any way it could hurt the DFs if he's a townie.


This is the most persuasive argument in my opinion. I generally think anyone caught lying should probably lynched ASAP, but I'll admit, I didn't think of Hopper's statement as a lie initially because it is such an outlandish and baffling claim. But I suppose you're right, and we're not going to really lose much whatever his alignment is. He's got my vote already. Let's see where this goes.
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RAFia in Space - Day 1 - Take Two Kronin al'Sulc - 29/10/2009 02:45:16 AM 2519 Views
i am here fistofpainx - 29/10/2009 02:56:38 AM 1097 Views
Present! *NM* Darth_Katie - 29/10/2009 03:00:34 AM 868 Views
Smooth. *NM* Darth_Katie - 29/10/2009 12:38:05 PM 842 Views
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I mass-NB the Vanilla message, so all Vanillas knew each other. Kronin al'Sulc - 29/10/2009 03:29:48 PM 1253 Views
That was indeed quite a mistake Bergioyn - 29/10/2009 03:35:58 PM 1034 Views
That could have led to problems later even if the Vanillas remained unaware of each other. Gher - 30/10/2009 02:55:16 AM 1127 Views
Actually, I was planning on just posting the Vanilla Message in the main thread. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 30/10/2009 02:10:16 PM 850 Views
That works too *NM* Fox and Ravens - 30/10/2009 06:36:18 PM 839 Views
Nice one Hopper Aes Sedai - 30/10/2009 07:38:15 PM 1196 Views
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Here. *NM* Darth_Katie - 01/11/2009 11:06:39 PM 832 Views
Oh, and... Darth_Katie - 01/11/2009 11:08:31 PM 1256 Views
There are probably gonna be quite a few more of those references in here. Kronin al'Sulc - 01/11/2009 11:30:08 PM 1064 Views
Here. *NM* Napoleon62 - 01/11/2009 11:18:11 PM 809 Views
here again *NM* fistofpainx - 01/11/2009 11:40:00 PM 812 Views
Here and ready for action. *NM* Gher - 01/11/2009 11:55:27 PM 758 Views
here, gonna be pretty busy this next week, though. *NM* Hopper Aes Sedai - 01/11/2009 11:56:00 PM 759 Views
Me too, actually. *NM* Darth_Katie - 02/11/2009 12:07:19 AM 772 Views
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Seeing as almost everyone is here, where should we start? *NM* Blaine - 02/11/2009 12:57:35 AM 835 Views
Here and ready to play!! *NM* Hobo - 02/11/2009 01:19:57 AM 823 Views
Here! Let's do this. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 02/11/2009 01:39:14 AM 878 Views
I had better not get killed by someone's brain beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:14:01 AM 1162 Views
How about aliens bursting from your chest? *NM* Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:20:23 PM 763 Views
It would certainly be an exciting way to go. *NM* Darth_Katie - 02/11/2009 10:47:55 PM 806 Views
Here *NM* Hieshyn - 02/11/2009 03:21:01 AM 744 Views
I'm here. *NM* Bergioyn - 02/11/2009 07:00:19 AM 688 Views
im here! *NM* Yunalesca - 02/11/2009 02:41:04 PM 849 Views
So so so... what now? Darth_Katie - 02/11/2009 10:52:39 PM 1146 Views
We need basic info Isaac - 02/11/2009 11:30:07 PM 1191 Views
3 Serial Killers, huh? Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 12:00:38 AM 1119 Views
For reference... Fanatic-Templar - 03/11/2009 12:51:52 AM 1110 Views
Simple - he counted. Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 12:58:38 AM 1132 Views
Kronin al'Sulc - 03/11/2009 01:01:59 AM 1186 Views
Re: For reference... Isaac - 03/11/2009 01:14:50 AM 1083 Views
Ah, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 03/11/2009 02:50:44 AM 1125 Views
Well I could probably tell you what one of the roles is... ranagrande - 03/11/2009 01:17:01 AM 1115 Views
Go ahead Isaac - 03/11/2009 01:21:00 AM 1140 Views
All right then, let's get a strategy going beetnemesis - 03/11/2009 01:26:17 AM 1188 Views
Re: All right then, let's get a strategy going Fox and Ravens - 03/11/2009 02:10:06 AM 1206 Views
Ranagrade used that stuff, though. AND logic and reason beetnemesis - 03/11/2009 04:13:13 AM 1436 Views
I'm curious about your comment Isaac - 03/11/2009 11:50:32 PM 1235 Views
Suspicios................(spelled wrong) Murtach74 - 04/11/2009 12:10:47 AM 1228 Views
Humor doesn't always translate well in message-board land, sorry beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 01:46:41 AM 1206 Views
That works Isaac - 04/11/2009 01:51:02 AM 1214 Views
I am here *NM* Murtach74 - 03/11/2009 01:19:27 AM 727 Views
DO NOT DISCUSS PAST ROLE MESSAGES Kronin al'Sulc - 03/11/2009 01:28:29 AM 1151 Views
Thank you. I was gonna say we shouldn't do that either. Fox and Ravens - 03/11/2009 02:08:04 AM 1214 Views
For the record Kronin al'Sulc - 03/11/2009 02:12:19 AM 1051 Views
Well, I did already. Sorry I could edit it away if it was okay? *NM* Bergioyn - 03/11/2009 08:05:43 AM 713 Views
People would still be able to see it though. *NM* Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 01:40:05 PM 853 Views
Re: People would still be able to see it though. Bergioyn - 03/11/2009 07:11:35 PM 1079 Views
Ah, I guess I'm just a cynic then. Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 08:12:23 PM 1155 Views
I asked him to do that already. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/11/2009 08:48:17 PM 1159 Views
And for those of us that unwittingly viewed the post? Napoleon62 - 03/11/2009 09:39:27 PM 1128 Views
Yes. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 03/11/2009 09:41:38 PM 782 Views
Vote: Hopper Aes Sedai Hopper Aes Sedai - 03/11/2009 03:52:30 AM 1316 Views
Okay, Vote: Hopper Aes Sedai *NM* Isaac - 03/11/2009 04:08:55 AM 810 Views
Why are you doing this? *NM* beetnemesis - 03/11/2009 04:25:17 AM 825 Views
Hmm. Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 04:58:37 AM 1083 Views
Hmm indeed ranagrande - 03/11/2009 01:45:29 PM 1075 Views
What's that Admiral Ackbar? Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 03:34:25 PM 1095 Views
It's a trap! Isaac - 03/11/2009 06:05:58 PM 1228 Views
Imitation crab meat! Darth_Katie - 03/11/2009 10:17:39 PM 1088 Views
Re: Imitation crab meat! Hopper Aes Sedai - 04/11/2009 12:26:17 AM 1116 Views
Because you're not making sense. Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 01:38:46 AM 1108 Views
lol i submitted that one as a quote already Blaine - 04/11/2009 04:57:26 AM 1212 Views
Confused............... Murtach74 - 03/11/2009 02:14:21 PM 1164 Views
this seems counter-intuitave *NM* fistofpainx - 03/11/2009 09:27:47 PM 849 Views
Give me a good reason and I'll think about it *NM* Hieshyn - 03/11/2009 09:11:45 PM 709 Views
Being mafia is not good enough? *NM* Hopper Aes Sedai - 04/11/2009 12:27:48 AM 818 Views
But why would you openly admit this? *NM* Hieshyn - 04/11/2009 01:05:23 AM 809 Views
There is a strong possiblity of a WIFOM here.... Hobo - 04/11/2009 01:34:40 AM 1355 Views
Yeah, I'd say this is almost grounds to specifically not lynch him beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 01:49:03 AM 1106 Views
But what if that's what he wants? Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 01:54:57 AM 1159 Views
He's a good candidate for lynching Isaac - 04/11/2009 02:28:19 AM 1101 Views
I doubt he's a jester. Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 03:01:56 AM 1113 Views
Vote: Hopper Aes Sedai Fanatic-Templar - 04/11/2009 04:57:36 AM 1105 Views
Vote: Hopper Sedai beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 05:07:07 AM 1092 Views
there could be a 5th option Yunalesca - 04/11/2009 01:32:39 PM 1127 Views
I hadn't thought of that. Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 02:06:32 PM 1095 Views
Bombs tend to act on a short list Isaac - 04/11/2009 06:26:25 PM 1183 Views
Re: Bombs tend to act on a short list Yunalesca - 04/11/2009 07:55:39 PM 1120 Views
Roster (Table) - Last Update: 6:23 pm EST, Nov 3 Isaac - 03/11/2009 11:25:49 PM 1079 Views
I dont really get it............. Murtach74 - 04/11/2009 12:05:16 AM 1160 Views
What the great and holy spleen of the heavens...........?? Napoleon62 - 04/11/2009 12:17:10 AM 1215 Views
No no no Im not talking about that last game.... Murtach74 - 04/11/2009 10:05:14 PM 1123 Views
What don't you get? Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 01:32:43 AM 1173 Views
I dont get the point of the roster table... *NM* Murtach74 - 04/11/2009 10:06:17 PM 829 Views
Well, there are a lot of people in this game. Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 10:24:26 PM 1276 Views
Round 1 is traditionally the time to settle old grudges, heh *NM* beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 01:50:31 AM 771 Views
Instead of lynching Hieshyn - 04/11/2009 01:04:51 AM 1210 Views
Let's recycle them and turn them into food pellets! *NM* beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 01:51:20 AM 684 Views
yum *NM* Blaine - 04/11/2009 04:54:05 AM 762 Views
ewww, we will have no cannibalisim on the ship Yunalesca - 04/11/2009 01:20:36 PM 1128 Views
Ohhhhh BURN! *NM* Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 02:02:39 PM 793 Views
I must say... Fox and Ravens - 04/11/2009 05:06:43 AM 1160 Views
I agree. Bergioyn - 04/11/2009 08:05:08 AM 1154 Views
this seems a likely enough option fistofpainx - 04/11/2009 01:11:35 PM 1208 Views
Who's gonna be the hammer????? Fox and Ravens - 04/11/2009 06:18:46 PM 1090 Views
Sheesh, there are a lot of people this game, aren't there? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/11/2009 07:54:27 PM 778 Views
Well, I'll do it... Napoleon62 - 04/11/2009 08:16:34 PM 1111 Views
Alright, I guess I'll hammer. Gher - 04/11/2009 08:22:16 PM 997 Views
Hello, my name is Gher and I have a problem... Gher - 04/11/2009 08:26:03 PM 1150 Views
Wow, that's like the forth or fifth time, isn't it? Darth_Katie - 04/11/2009 10:26:18 PM 1108 Views
*NM* Isaac - 05/11/2009 12:52:01 AM 731 Views
Hopper Aes Sedai has been lynched. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/11/2009 08:42:57 PM 1074 Views
OMG - was busy a few days and this happens... bah. Hopper Aes Sedai - 07/11/2009 03:17:23 AM 1069 Views
RBIRL - till Sunday evening *NM* Isaac - 06/11/2009 01:21:46 AM 706 Views
I'm on that too Fox and Ravens - 06/11/2009 04:02:59 PM 950 Views
You're going to the NAC in Kansas City? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 06/11/2009 04:52:11 PM 769 Views
Nope. It's in Haverford PA *NM* Fox and Ravens - 06/11/2009 06:49:06 PM 762 Views
Ah. What weapon are you? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 06/11/2009 09:27:02 PM 726 Views
Sabre! I tried out for the team on epee too but didn't do as well. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 07/11/2009 04:45:28 AM 748 Views
Bah, epee is terrible. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/11/2009 04:49:14 AM 1225 Views
And foil isn't hopping around for 2-3 minutes? *NM* Fox and Ravens - 08/11/2009 04:21:20 AM 763 Views
Foil's got much more action then epee. Kronin al'Sulc - 08/11/2009 04:33:41 AM 1204 Views
Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhh...I did't really see it till last weekend. Fox and Ravens - 11/11/2009 04:39:04 PM 1277 Views
Not bad... Kronin al'Sulc - 11/11/2009 04:47:39 PM 1111 Views
Re: Not bad... Fox and Ravens - 12/11/2009 01:38:41 AM 1034 Views
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