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...what? beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM

Stephen had access to a night kill.

He either got it from

a) Being a vampire

or

b) being a member of a faction

If he got it from being a member of a faction, the factions he is likely a part of are:

1) Watch

2) Undead

3) Foreigners/Ubervaldians


1 is extremely unlikely, since it runs counter to the Watch's victory condition (and you claim you know nothing of a Watch NK).

2 is possible, even probable.

3 is a slim possibility, but we have no evidence of a foreigner faction.

So the most likely reasons Stephen had a Night Kill are either:

  • he was a vampire

  • he was a member of the undead faction


Both of which apply to Yunalesca. Therefore, Yuna likely has a Night Kill, therefore, she is a good candidate to lynch.

I amuse myself.
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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Isaac - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 1753 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. beetnemesis - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 1084 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 728 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 627 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results Artsapat - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 1066 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. Fanatic-Templar - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 1016 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1176 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" beetnemesis - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 938 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" Praziquantel - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 967 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me Fanatic-Templar - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 1026 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 1136 Views
Did something happen to you? Fanatic-Templar - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 1028 Views
I believe so beetnemesis - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 1063 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. beetnemesis - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 895 Views
Why would I answer? Fanatic-Templar - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 952 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca beetnemesis - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 1006 Views
Hmm ? - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 971 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 1049 Views
On the other hand... Fanatic-Templar - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 1032 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? beetnemesis - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 989 Views
So soap trumps night kill? Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 962 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 1082 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna Fanatic-Templar - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 1135 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals beetnemesis - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 1148 Views
My initial reaction... ? - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 984 Views
I dunno. If he was going to be modkilled, what would be the point of NK'ing him? beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:35:42 PM 890 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 1035 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk beetnemesis - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 903 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 1033 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals ranagrande - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 1107 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 1035 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 630 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Artsapat - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 1037 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* Bergioyn - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 660 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted Taiga - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 952 Views
Haha the "hypo" stands for "hypothetical." You're supposed to pretend like you did. *NM* beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:15:02 PM 616 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... Artsapat - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 1092 Views
Hypocop Table beetnemesis - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 969 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* ranagrande - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 579 Views
FT not guilty *NM* ? - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 704 Views
Re: Hypocop Table Taiga - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 1092 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 983 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap Sacrilicious Toast - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 1086 Views
Happy New Year! Isaac - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 970 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* Artsapat - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 580 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again Praziquantel - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1245 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 1013 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? beetnemesis - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 985 Views
Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Artsapat - 04/01/2014 08:50:08 PM 1071 Views
Re: Interesting speculation, but it's not in line with the circumstances of the death scene Taiga - 06/01/2014 12:12:40 PM 1062 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 579 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 1089 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 957 Views
? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 938 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 1099 Views
And furthermore... Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 1036 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 1079 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 1046 Views
...what? beetnemesis - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 961 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 980 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 1059 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1159 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 983 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 1101 Views
The truth is we know nothing about the undead other than one of them had a NK beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:41:32 PM 1008 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? Bergioyn - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 875 Views
I don't, true. I know that we have more than one undead, and Stephen's NK was not a Watch ability beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 04:46:42 PM 935 Views
OK, this makes sense. Artsapat - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 1056 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 947 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow Artsapat - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 1099 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 1032 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 1055 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1238 Views
Well I guess this confirms that we have a definitive scum faction. ? - 07/01/2014 10:06:14 PM 974 Views
Good work, F-T Praziquantel - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1347 Views
Re: Good work, F-T Fanatic-Templar - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 1098 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? beetnemesis - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 982 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 1010 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Fanatic-Templar - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 1034 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Artsapat - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 1140 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1225 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. beetnemesis - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 1055 Views
And why shouldn't they? Praziquantel - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1241 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? Artsapat - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 1006 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 1083 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. ranagrande - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 920 Views
Sounds good to me too. Fanatic-Templar - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1256 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. Bergioyn - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 920 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* beetnemesis - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 711 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 738 Views
RBIRL Taiga - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 1111 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Sacrilicious Toast - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 1086 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy Isaac - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 1025 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca Isaac - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1260 Views
So... Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1338 Views
Re: So... Taiga - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 1077 Views
EBWOP. Taiga - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 998 Views
Complicating matters, there are a ton of dwarves that have been born in the city *NM* beetnemesis - 13/01/2014 03:24:06 PM 603 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. ? - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 1020 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. Fanatic-Templar - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1301 Views
If it helps your analysis any more, I'm satisfied that vampires aren't a threat beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:28:38 PM 1262 Views
Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 1077 Views
Re: Not strictly true Artsapat - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1158 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. ? - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 915 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* beetnemesis - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 794 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. ranagrande - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 997 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 1085 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Artsapat - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 1156 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? Sacrilicious Toast - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 1031 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1275 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. Artsapat - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 1085 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 800 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* Bergioyn - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 587 Views
...I suppose. Still, the thought of calling a DW witch a "magician" makes my skin crawl. *NM* beetnemesis - 17/01/2014 05:15:09 PM 833 Views
Euhm. Yeah. Right. Sorry. Been a while since I read DW... *NM* Artsapat - 19/01/2014 08:37:11 PM 561 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night beetnemesis - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1188 Views
Re: Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night Sacrilicious Toast - 18/01/2014 03:36:41 PM 1048 Views
Vampire was my interpretation, but the wording was just that I woke up feeling drained beetnemesis - 19/01/2014 06:33:10 PM 1240 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. Artsapat - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 981 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. Fanatic-Templar - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1195 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ? - 20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM 1111 Views
I never fully got over the cancelation of Buffy and Angel *NM* beetnemesis - 20/01/2014 04:00:03 PM 814 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. ranagrande - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 1069 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* beetnemesis - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 833 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 714 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* Isaac - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 713 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* ? - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 586 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 741 Views
What's been discussed already. ? - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 964 Views
Well, you know my reasoning Artsapat - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 890 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1302 Views
Vote: Praziquantel ranagrande - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 973 Views
And here you are again. Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1197 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 584 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz ? - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 1024 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1235 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: ? - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 1024 Views
Wait let me try that again... ? - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 960 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1154 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 647 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1178 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1277 Views
For what it's worth I completely agree that the lynch is legitimate. Fanatic-Templar - 27/01/2014 09:44:10 PM 1397 Views
For sure. I didn't even check the timing. *NM* ? - 27/01/2014 11:49:32 PM 640 Views
Also something of an issue because his death specifically grants a morale bonus to his lynchers *NM* Isaac - 28/01/2014 12:41:19 AM 727 Views
Can we get an extension? Fanatic-Templar - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1248 Views
Seconded. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 593 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 689 Views
Thank you *NM* ? - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 613 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1325 Views
Vote record Update 1 Isaac - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1254 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 638 Views
Thanks *NM* Isaac - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 775 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* beetnemesis - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 772 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched Isaac - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1248 Views
Twilight has begun Isaac - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1365 Views
Re: Twilight has begun Fanatic-Templar - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1308 Views
Ha, cool! In a more active board, it might have been better, but still, neat idea *NM* beetnemesis - 28/01/2014 03:39:41 AM 811 Views
So, is it taking long because the Watch protected us SO WELL that you're writing an epic message? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/02/2014 06:33:39 PM 859 Views
The nights have grown as long as the days I think Isaac - 05/02/2014 12:57:11 PM 1698 Views
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