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Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM

Yes, the one victim we've had was a vampire, but that vampire HAD A NIGHT KILL ABILITY.


That doesn't imply that vampires are saints- all it implies is that there are vampires with Night Kills, and some other person/persons/Hippos with Night Kills.

So, yeah. We know for a fact that a Kill-capable vampire existed. It seems pretty reasonable to assume that Stephen's Night Kill stemmed from the fact that he was a vampire. Meaning, it is likely that Yuna ALSO has a Night Kill. That right there is grounds enough for me. But, there's more!

-As I said, I woke up feeling "drained." The most reasonable theory I have is that a vampire managed to get a few nibbles of me. (In RPS mechanics terms, maybe that means it was an RPS tie, or maybe my attacker has to win on two nights to kill?)

-Finally, the "ALLEGED" anti-undead soap. I see no reason to doubt that it works, and you trying to undermine its credibility on the basis of, well, nothing, is troubling, to say the least.

Occam's Razor. Sure, maybe one vampire had a Night Kill while another didn't. And that I was hit with some non-canon "draining ray" instead of being bitten. And that the peddler is selling fake protective soap. But it's much simpler if my theory, that Yuna (or another vampire, I suppose) attacked me last night, is correct.

  • Note: This is why I wanted to know if you had targeted me last night. Since you are declining to comment, I'm working on the assumption that you did not.

  • Note 2: An anti-undead role would be cool, but if that were the case I hardly think I'd be so blatant about it. Plus, there isn't really any kind of "vampire hunter" group or character in Discworld canon that I can think of. Nearest is Commander Vimes' well-known prejudice against vampires, and even that is more out of habit than maliciousness.

I amuse myself.
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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 1890 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 1212 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 829 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 726 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 1200 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 1147 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1307 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 1068 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 1098 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 1164 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 1270 Views
Did something happen to you? - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 1159 Views
I believe so - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 1197 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 1024 Views
Why would I answer? - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 1080 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 1140 Views
Hmm - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 1101 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 1185 Views
On the other hand... - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 1161 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 1123 Views
So soap trumps night kill? - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 1098 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 1215 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 1268 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 1271 Views
My initial reaction... - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 1118 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 1165 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 1032 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 1168 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 1231 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 1175 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 737 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 1176 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 766 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 1081 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 1222 Views
Hypocop Table - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 1104 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 683 Views
FT not guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 806 Views
Re: Hypocop Table - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 1233 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 1123 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 1225 Views
Happy New Year! - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 1100 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 684 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1401 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 1146 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 1115 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 676 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 1221 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 1093 Views
? - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 1062 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 1226 Views
And furthermore... - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 1163 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 1208 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 1172 Views
...what? - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 1091 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 1116 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 1184 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1291 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 1117 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 1229 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 1002 Views
OK, this makes sense. - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 1199 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 1083 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 1230 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 1160 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 1189 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1368 Views
Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1479 Views
Re: Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 1229 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 1110 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 1136 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 1166 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 1269 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1360 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 1208 Views
And why shouldn't they? - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1388 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 1148 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 1218 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 1045 Views
Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1532 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 1060 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 812 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 845 Views
RBIRL - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 1241 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 1227 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 1161 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1528 Views
So... - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1613 Views
Re: So... - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 1207 Views
EBWOP. - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 1144 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 1152 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1573 Views
Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 1223 Views
Re: Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1293 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 1046 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 906 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 1132 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 1215 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 1289 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 1158 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1545 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 1222 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 912 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 689 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1451 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 1106 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1468 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 1197 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 947 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 826 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 821 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 688 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 858 Views
What's been discussed already. - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 1098 Views
Well, you know my reasoning - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 1025 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1568 Views
Vote: Praziquantel - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 1099 Views
And here you are again. - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1454 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 688 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 1153 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1502 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 1157 Views
Wait let me try that again... - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 1095 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1427 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 745 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1442 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1549 Views
Can we get an extension? - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1503 Views
Seconded. *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 693 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 802 Views
Thank you *NM* - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 712 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1623 Views
Vote record Update 1 - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1531 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 739 Views
Thanks *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 892 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 878 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1519 Views
Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1641 Views
Re: Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1583 Views

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