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Every townie should be fighting off the Hippos, assuming the Hippos are the scum of this game?

I am wondering about that as well. Perhaps it is a red herring? I'm still confused about who we're actually supposed to be fighting. But that does seem like a very Discworld-esque dilemma, doesn't it?

Summarizing the evidence we have so far:

  • 1 dead Dwarf with a Hippo branded on him (Pre-game)
  • 1 building demolished by a mob with a battering ram (Pre-game)
  • 1 C.J. Bailey (probably dwarf from Klatch), killed with a sack of marbles; his belongings at the time of death included a Hippo pamphlet and some Yeti hair (according to wiki, Yeti are a type of mountain troll that are hunted for their feet; Yeti have some ability to manipulate time and revive after dying). (Day 1 Event)
  • 1 drunk zombie demanding brains (Night 1 and Dawn Day 2)
  • 1 Black Ribboner vampire photojournalist (Yunalesca, Day 1-2)
  • 1 Klatchian Curry shop attacked by Ankh-Morpork "nationalists" wielding/throwing Scones. We have the option of hiding, fleeing, or fighting the Dwarves or Hippos. (Day 2 Event)

Feel free to add any other evidence I forgot or anything else you might know.

From what I listed, I can conclude the the Hippos have some sort of connection to the Dwarves, mostly likely an antagonistic relationship. Although CJ Bailey had a Hippo pamphlet on him, I think it was not a question of him being a member, but rather a way for the Hippos to take credit for the kill (just like with the branding of the Dwarf the killed earlier. Now, from just those two examples, it would be difficult to rule out a possibility that someone is using the Hippo organization as a cover for committing these murders. But with the Event today, I'm leaning towards them being a real faction that's at odds with the Dwarves.

Question is, whose side should we be on? Although the Hippo league is committing murders, is that necessarily bad? Are they really the bad guys? In the normal mafia game, even the town has to murder people to win. I don't know if the Hippo League or Dwarves are considered an evil faction in the Discworld.

So guys, are either of these factions really evil? Who should we fight, if any?

FYI, I already submitted my choice, and I'm not sure I'm allowed to change it. I don't want to say what I did yet, in case that might influence your response or your actions.

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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 2 - Attack of the Scones Isaac - 15/10/2013 08:34:48 AM 1835 Views
No deaths then? *NM* Bergioyn - 15/10/2013 08:50:26 AM 722 Views
did anything happen at all, except this wandering vagrant? *NM* Taiga - 15/10/2013 10:03:30 AM 690 Views
Huh Artsapat - 15/10/2013 11:17:02 AM 1122 Views
Perhaps we have an Igor? They'd be perfect for a doc. *NM* Bergioyn - 15/10/2013 12:47:52 PM 688 Views
Altough, now that I think about it, I don't know if they count as "named characters". *NM* Bergioyn - 15/10/2013 01:50:25 PM 653 Views
I'd think an Igor would be a legit character choice beetnemesis - 15/10/2013 05:57:13 PM 1008 Views
Re: Huh Praziquantel - 15/10/2013 05:13:21 PM 1175 Views
Re: (including to several other posts below) Artsapat - 16/10/2013 02:45:07 PM 1111 Views
That's more or less accurate beetnemesis - 16/10/2013 03:55:13 PM 1027 Views
I feel like this is probably true ? - 16/10/2013 10:23:00 PM 1076 Views
Because they failed their RPS, probably? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 15/10/2013 06:02:27 PM 826 Views
I see what you are doing there, Isaac Yunalesca - 15/10/2013 04:23:01 PM 1446 Views
Re: I see what you are doing there, Isaac Praziquantel - 15/10/2013 05:07:41 PM 1076 Views
Hm. About what I expected. Question is, what to do about it? beetnemesis - 15/10/2013 08:01:54 PM 1082 Views
Re: Hm. About what I expected. Question is, what to do about it? Isaac - 15/10/2013 10:42:11 PM 1122 Views
Such a good game. beetnemesis - 16/10/2013 01:31:49 AM 1133 Views
That was a fun one to run Isaac - 16/10/2013 03:04:45 AM 1060 Views
I was attacked beetnemesis - 15/10/2013 06:03:43 PM 1167 Views
Re: I was attacked Praziquantel - 15/10/2013 07:04:07 PM 1181 Views
oh and also btw Praziquantel - 15/10/2013 07:07:16 PM 1230 Views
Hm. beetnemesis - 15/10/2013 07:51:25 PM 1095 Views
Maybe we could claim profession (and/or race)? *NM* Taiga - 16/10/2013 11:48:15 AM 740 Views
Bad idea, IMO. The profession could give roles away way too easily. *NM* Bergioyn - 16/10/2013 01:03:40 PM 719 Views
We've had thief roles before. Fanatic-Templar - 15/10/2013 08:26:33 PM 1127 Views
Yup. It was a string of tooth fairy teeth, or something. *NM* beetnemesis - 16/10/2013 01:33:39 AM 745 Views
Well this is certainly interesting... *NM* ? - 15/10/2013 09:01:55 PM 693 Views
Re: Well this is certainly interesting... Sacrilicious Toast - 17/10/2013 12:29:30 PM 1120 Views
Why creepy? Artsapat - 17/10/2013 12:45:57 PM 1127 Views
Re: Why creepy? Sacrilicious Toast - 18/10/2013 09:46:12 AM 1210 Views
Ah. That explains it. And yes: creepy. Artsapat - 18/10/2013 10:06:30 AM 1119 Views
So, does anyone have any ideas? *NM* Bergioyn - 17/10/2013 07:54:54 PM 714 Views
Well, did everybody check in? Artsapat - 17/10/2013 09:10:08 PM 1112 Views
About my Night: Fanatic-Templar - 17/10/2013 09:52:33 PM 1203 Views
I wasn't targeted either, to my knowledge. *NM* Bergioyn - 17/10/2013 11:01:50 PM 634 Views
I haven't checked in yet, and I'll be RBIRL until Monday. ranagrande - 18/10/2013 12:58:54 AM 1164 Views
There ARE zombies. Although I don't think they eat brains? beetnemesis - 18/10/2013 02:46:14 AM 1130 Views
Re: I haven't checked in yet, and I'll be RBIRL until Monday. Praziquantel - 18/10/2013 03:38:33 AM 1135 Views
So, that makes two Undead Artsapat - 18/10/2013 09:23:11 AM 1184 Views
Re: So, that makes two Undead Isaac - 18/10/2013 11:46:01 AM 1245 Views
Re: So, that makes two Undead Fanatic-Templar - 18/10/2013 06:20:00 PM 1092 Views
Fair enough. I figured that. Artsapat - 20/10/2013 11:43:27 AM 1105 Views
Possible Thieves beetnemesis - 18/10/2013 02:52:36 AM 1118 Views
Re: Possible Thieves Sacrilicious Toast - 18/10/2013 09:54:54 AM 1055 Views
Actually, the Librarian did ring true in my ears Artsapat - 18/10/2013 10:10:05 AM 1026 Views
Haha Nobbs CONSTANTLY takes stuff! beetnemesis - 18/10/2013 04:36:38 PM 1221 Views
I think I did, oh vell I vill check in again. *NM* Yunalesca - 18/10/2013 10:32:12 AM 986 Views
Re: Well, did everybody check in? Taiga - 18/10/2013 08:34:48 PM 1089 Views
What? Wait... Artsapat - 20/10/2013 12:06:19 PM 1196 Views
Re: What? Wait... Taiga - 20/10/2013 12:26:34 PM 1182 Views
Re: What? Wait... Praziquantel - 20/10/2013 04:03:38 PM 1357 Views
I think you're right... ? - 20/10/2013 10:14:30 PM 1118 Views
Stephen did not check in. How long is he absent now? *NM* Taiga - 21/10/2013 11:00:55 AM 745 Views
Question time! ranagrande - 21/10/2013 05:34:37 AM 1124 Views
No. beetnemesis - 21/10/2013 05:40:04 AM 1019 Views
Re: Question time! Praziquantel - 21/10/2013 05:56:07 AM 1113 Views
No *NM* Yunalesca - 21/10/2013 10:00:39 AM 885 Views
Yes *NM* Taiga - 21/10/2013 10:58:51 AM 716 Views
Re: Question time! Sacrilicious Toast - 21/10/2013 04:32:06 PM 1085 Views
No. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 21/10/2013 06:55:39 PM 685 Views
No. *NM* Bergioyn - 21/10/2013 07:14:16 PM 690 Views
Not visited but I saw him *NM* ? - 21/10/2013 08:45:05 PM 652 Views
So yes I guess *NM* ? - 21/10/2013 08:46:09 PM 644 Views
btw, i'm still waiting for your answer Praziquantel - 21/10/2013 11:01:41 PM 1090 Views
Re: btw, i'm still waiting for your answer ranagrande - 22/10/2013 09:00:10 AM 1210 Views
So based on this Artsapat - 22/10/2013 10:43:27 AM 1523 Views
Clarification ? - 22/10/2013 06:57:55 PM 1008 Views
Re: So based on this ranagrande - 22/10/2013 08:32:36 PM 1272 Views
Perhaps we could create a rough timeline Praziquantel - 22/10/2013 08:47:03 PM 1270 Views
Re: So based on this Praziquantel - 22/10/2013 08:40:55 PM 1073 Views
No *NM* Artsapat - 22/10/2013 10:12:45 AM 653 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 2 - Attack of the Scones Taiga - 22/10/2013 11:14:26 AM 1029 Views
Any thoughts on "Attack of the Scones?" beetnemesis - 22/10/2013 02:33:53 PM 958 Views
My thought exactly Taiga - 22/10/2013 06:07:46 PM 1161 Views
Well, they're Star Wars jokes. Fanatic-Templar - 22/10/2013 07:04:03 PM 1095 Views
I noticed that too *NM* Yunalesca - 22/10/2013 09:07:58 PM 926 Views
Re: I noticed that too Sacrilicious Toast - 23/10/2013 09:26:31 AM 1130 Views
Don't worry Artsapat - 23/10/2013 02:23:50 PM 1141 Views
Re: Don't worry Sacrilicious Toast - 23/10/2013 02:51:36 PM 1141 Views
You mean : a new scone *NM* Taiga - 23/10/2013 07:18:15 PM 688 Views
Ha totally missed that *NM* ? - 23/10/2013 07:58:22 PM 625 Views
2 for a pattern isn't much, especially as night names are on a different pattern Isaac - 24/10/2013 10:29:27 AM 1258 Views
Hah, so my guess about it being a reference to the other setting options is correct then? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2013 12:26:00 AM 700 Views
Yep *NM* Isaac - 25/10/2013 04:24:24 AM 657 Views
Event: Attack of the Scones Isaac - 23/10/2013 03:46:27 PM 1152 Views
For the confused... beetnemesis - 23/10/2013 05:35:46 PM 1104 Views
So if I understand this Praziquantel - 24/10/2013 08:30:25 PM 1126 Views
Re: So if I understand this Bergioyn - 24/10/2013 09:09:56 PM 1167 Views
The first target was a dwarf too right? *NM* ? - 25/10/2013 12:27:30 AM 651 Views
I'm not quite sure what's going on here. Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2013 12:22:03 AM 1167 Views
Well, let's see Praziquantel - 25/10/2013 04:03:16 AM 1297 Views
Really? You compile evidence of a scum faction and then think "Huh. Maybe they're GOOD murderers" Artsapat - 25/10/2013 07:59:49 AM 1261 Views
I asked because I don't know Praziquantel - 25/10/2013 08:52:04 AM 1113 Views
I think that was me- it'd be VERY pratchett-esque to have a Dwarf be a Hippo beetnemesis - 25/10/2013 05:39:53 PM 1085 Views
FYI modkills Isaac - 25/10/2013 04:35:59 AM 1142 Views
So, if there's a way to answer this question without revealing too much... Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2013 07:14:48 AM 1057 Views
Re: So, if there's a way to answer this question without revealing too much... Isaac - 25/10/2013 01:12:49 PM 1176 Views
Ok, that's what I suspected. Fanatic-Templar - 25/10/2013 06:28:14 PM 1157 Views
Related note, sorry for my lack of posting Yunalesca - 25/10/2013 01:06:13 PM 1385 Views
Re: Related note, sorry for my lack of posting Isaac - 25/10/2013 01:35:41 PM 1270 Views
Re: Related note, sorry for my lack of posting Yunalesca - 25/10/2013 05:27:28 PM 1640 Views
Re: Related note, sorry for my lack of posting Isaac - 25/10/2013 05:57:03 PM 1145 Views
Vote: Stephen ranagrande - 25/10/2013 09:11:18 PM 1067 Views
Yeah, I don't really want to do it, but I guess it's necessary. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/10/2013 07:58:54 AM 736 Views
Re: Vote: Stephen Taiga - 26/10/2013 10:16:33 AM 1088 Views
I agree. *NM* Bergioyn - 26/10/2013 11:34:26 AM 690 Views
Yeah... Praziquantel - 26/10/2013 05:33:21 PM 1041 Views
I'm waiting for the Event resolution . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/10/2013 06:33:22 PM 665 Views
Same here. *NM* beetnemesis - 26/10/2013 09:56:04 PM 608 Views
Wait is the day's deadline approaching? ? - 27/10/2013 12:59:30 AM 1036 Views
Event Resolution Isaac - 26/10/2013 11:22:17 PM 1178 Views
No responses yet? Praziquantel - 28/10/2013 03:20:54 AM 1194 Views
I haven't gotten anything from Isaac beetnemesis - 28/10/2013 06:01:56 PM 1129 Views
I didn't get anything either. *NM* ? - 28/10/2013 07:13:50 PM 717 Views
All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. Fanatic-Templar - 28/10/2013 11:10:53 PM 1242 Views
How do you know Stephen isn't Hippo League? beetnemesis - 28/10/2013 11:39:04 PM 1123 Views
Re: How do you know Stephen isn't Hippo League? Praziquantel - 29/10/2013 02:03:55 AM 1117 Views
Re: How do you know Stephen isn't Hippo League? Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 04:22:48 AM 1065 Views
A SECOND vampire? Come on, people! beetnemesis - 29/10/2013 12:46:34 PM 1105 Views
Because he's getting modkilled anyway? Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 03:56:55 PM 1182 Views
I have an idea... ? - 28/10/2013 11:55:17 PM 1107 Views
Re: I have an idea... Yunalesca - 28/10/2013 11:59:55 PM 1529 Views
Oh okay... ? - 29/10/2013 12:27:10 AM 1099 Views
Yeah, that'd be great. beetnemesis - 29/10/2013 02:25:53 AM 1135 Views
I've let him know, and he's replied Yunalesca - 29/10/2013 04:10:52 PM 1472 Views
Re: All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. ranagrande - 29/10/2013 01:15:11 AM 1067 Views
Re: All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 04:33:37 AM 1270 Views
I don't disagree, but I think you got point 4 wrong beetnemesis - 29/10/2013 12:50:03 PM 1174 Views
Re: I don't disagree, but I think you got point 4 wrong Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 03:58:42 PM 1202 Views
Ah. Nvm then.My head's been all over the place today. beetnemesis - 29/10/2013 11:46:23 PM 1116 Views
Re: All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. ranagrande - 29/10/2013 05:37:24 PM 1112 Views
And so my point still stands. Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 09:14:13 PM 1090 Views
Re: And so my point still stands. Taiga - 30/10/2013 01:01:00 PM 1076 Views
Could I get a bulleted list or something? beetnemesis - 30/10/2013 03:08:56 PM 956 Views
It's pretty much a confession that his role does involve eliminating others. Fanatic-Templar - 30/10/2013 05:02:54 PM 1114 Views
Ranagrande? Do you have a response? *NM* beetnemesis - 01/11/2013 02:25:23 AM 642 Views
"Calculated ploy"? Artsapat - 30/10/2013 09:21:09 AM 1065 Views
I seem to have missed quite a bit. Praziquantel - 30/10/2013 02:26:25 PM 1199 Views
coughcoughcoughhesomehowknowsStephensidentitycoughcoughcough beetnemesis - 30/10/2013 03:03:56 PM 1117 Views
Re: coughcoughcoughhesomehowknowsStephensidentitycoughcoughcough Praziquantel - 30/10/2013 05:13:09 PM 1218 Views
Oh, no idea. I was just answering that first question. *NM* beetnemesis - 31/10/2013 01:17:55 PM 646 Views
Regarding the Undead... Fanatic-Templar - 30/10/2013 05:07:09 PM 1117 Views
Re: Regarding the Undead... Praziquantel - 30/10/2013 05:15:19 PM 1155 Views
Re: Regarding the Undead... Artsapat - 01/11/2013 08:07:09 AM 1203 Views
This was actually my first reaction as well. ? - 30/10/2013 08:06:23 PM 1038 Views
Some clarification, please. Praziquantel - 30/10/2013 02:41:14 PM 1137 Views
Re: Some clarification, please. ranagrande - 30/10/2013 08:25:40 PM 1232 Views
So. Roleclaim has been achieved Artsapat - 01/11/2013 08:10:06 AM 1083 Views
A Survivor? What character are you? beetnemesis - 01/11/2013 01:50:23 PM 1128 Views
I am A. A. Dinwiddie, the Bursar. *NM* ranagrande - 01/11/2013 05:26:04 PM 722 Views
Re: I am A. A. Dinwiddie, the Bursar. Praziquantel - 01/11/2013 07:38:32 PM 1207 Views
Re: I am A. A. Dinwiddie, the Bursar. ranagrande - 02/11/2013 02:54:49 AM 1223 Views
Re: Some clarification, please. Taiga - 01/11/2013 02:52:38 PM 1059 Views
Re: All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. Praziquantel - 29/10/2013 02:13:25 AM 1152 Views
Re: All right, I'm thinking the Hippo League really are our scum faction. Fanatic-Templar - 29/10/2013 04:34:47 AM 1075 Views
RBIRL Yunalesca - 30/10/2013 03:18:32 PM 1548 Views
Have fun! Fanatic-Templar - 30/10/2013 05:08:59 PM 1182 Views
Me too Artsapat - 01/11/2013 09:07:01 AM 1200 Views
Mod-RBIRL Isaac - 04/11/2013 07:35:49 AM 1289 Views
Yeah looks like you're not alone... *NM* ? - 05/11/2013 02:15:29 AM 679 Views
So does anyone here have an objective? Fanatic-Templar - 06/11/2013 03:36:35 AM 1200 Views
Objectives Taiga - 06/11/2013 06:35:09 PM 1109 Views
Re: Objectives Bergioyn - 06/11/2013 08:08:51 PM 1131 Views
Re: So does anyone here have an objective? Praziquantel - 07/11/2013 09:08:27 AM 1124 Views
Wizards are basically tenured university professors who love their creature comforts beetnemesis - 07/11/2013 01:13:35 PM 1078 Views
(Oh, and vampires aren't benign. They are potentially super-powerful) beetnemesis - 07/11/2013 01:18:27 PM 1113 Views
Yeah, the fact that we have two vampires almost certainly means something. Fanatic-Templar - 07/11/2013 07:18:23 PM 1149 Views
Vote: ranagrande. He doesn't have our best interests at heart beetnemesis - 07/11/2013 03:31:28 AM 1108 Views
Well I just want to do something... *NM* ? - 08/11/2013 12:42:06 AM 656 Views
...yes? *NM* beetnemesis - 08/11/2013 03:52:40 AM 649 Views
You're looking at this wrong. ranagrande - 09/11/2013 04:17:03 AM 1188 Views
Anything. I'm willing to lynch rana if that's the consensus *NM* ? - 09/11/2013 12:47:13 AM 697 Views
Well Praziquantel - 10/11/2013 02:46:37 AM 1133 Views
But what if... ? - 10/11/2013 02:46:53 PM 1272 Views
Re: But what if... Bergioyn - 10/11/2013 11:33:18 PM 1075 Views
In that case Artsapat - 11/11/2013 09:27:42 AM 1421 Views
Who do you mean? Yuna or Stephen? *NM* Bergioyn - 11/11/2013 12:24:49 PM 668 Views
Re: But what if... Praziquantel - 11/11/2013 12:28:20 AM 1120 Views
Deadline Monday NOV 11 Isaac - 09/11/2013 01:40:34 AM 994 Views
Sorry, I've been back a little bit from my conference Artsapat - 11/11/2013 09:46:54 AM 1133 Views
Re: Sorry, I've been back a little bit from my conference Fanatic-Templar - 11/11/2013 05:20:27 PM 1006 Views
Re: Sorry, I've been back a little bit from my conference ? - 11/11/2013 07:34:18 PM 1121 Views
I'm surprised it didn't end while I was away. *NM* Yunalesca - 11/11/2013 03:39:30 PM 822 Views
Me too *NM* Isaac - 11/11/2013 09:02:52 PM 665 Views
Back from Florida Yunalesca - 10/11/2013 01:03:19 PM 1415 Views
Unvote ranagrande - 11/11/2013 08:14:30 PM 1181 Views
Notes for upcoming Night 2 Isaac - 11/11/2013 09:34:12 PM 1223 Views
Day 2 has ended Isaac - 12/11/2013 02:35:03 AM 1129 Views
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