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Re: I see you didn't vote for Hobo. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 10/09/2013 07:42:03 PM

View original post1) how is that you "know" I am allied to Hobo?

That's what this entire thing was about testing. You've claimed that:


View original postRoleclaims are pointless as they only hurt us, none of us can possibly trust each other today, and I'm not asking for trust, I am just pointing out that since neither of us can realistically be Russian that this 1-0-1-2 case can be safely tested by voting for either Rana or Hobo, that's all I'm asking from you.

Well, I did exactly as you asked, though obviously not as you desired. So let's safely test this hypothesis. After all:


View original postfor me killing either one is the same.

You're hoping that I'll vote for ranagrande and Hobo can suddenly hammer him, but that's not going to happen because you're operating under a severe misunderstanding of who's allied with whom.


View original post2) how is that you know he is a traitor?

Because I've figured out what this game's setup is. It's a beautiful setup, incidentally, I'm quite impressed. I really thought you'd figured it out long before I had, you had access to the relevant information faster than I did, or should have had, but whichever one of your allies knew about the traitor apparently didn't trust you enough to share with the group before he died.

Really, since you're convinced that Hobo is your ally and that I'm not a Russian, that leaves very few possibilities as to what you think this game's setup is. Either four Japanese, three Italians and two Russians, with Ranagrande as the only remaining mafia opponent, or four Japanese, three Italians and a Russian Serial Killer with both Rana and I being townies. Both of these options are blatantly inbalanced. So I suspect you believe there are four Japanese, four Italians and a Russian Serial Killer, with me as the remaining Italian and ranagrande as another Russian (because there were still three Night Kills). That's slightly more reasonable, but it still leaves a Russian mafia with half the power of the other two.

How about I speculate a bit, and you decide for yourself how well I figured out this game.

On Night 1, the Italians killed Taiga, the Japanese killed Artsapat and the Russians killed Praziquantel.
On Night 2, the Italians killed Dannymac, the Japanese killed Fox and Ravens and the Russians killed Sacrilicious Toast.

There was a traitor in every mafia. Do you think it's a coincidence that on both Nights, the Japanese killed Italians? That the Italians never killed a Japanese? The Russians break this pattern because they lucked out and the traitor on their team died early on. That also explains why they're currently the strongest mafia.

And whoever the traitor was, they would also know that there was a traitor in their team. But obviously whoever it was on your team didn't want to give away that information, probably not to let the traitor know he was on to them.

What do you think, coincidence?

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