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Re: Oh dear, this is unfortunate. Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 07/08/2013 11:32:12 PM

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Unfortunate that my brief absence has prevented me from nipping this in the bud and now I may have the stain of suspicion marking me indelibly.

Just from the posts I made before reaching this one, you get to add an answer to the uninformative "appearances" question and a defence I presented to Hobo just above, which almost doubles my score according to your listing. Adding this post, I have done just that.

Now, I would use this to point out the unreliable basis of your accusation, but then you'll just claim that I suddenly started posting in reaction to this accusation and this "change" in behaviour demonstrates that I am scrambling for a defence and have therefore validated your position.

Indeed, it is my unhappy position that, without a strong objective basis for your suspicion, I have nothing to refute and cannot really defend myself. Any attempts to do so will only serve to maintain my role as "suspect" in this arrangement. In truth, the best defence is a good offence, and I should be trying to cast off suspicion by accusing someone else, specifically you, as that would also cast doubt on your suspicions of me. Unfortunately, I am loathe to attack people for trying to get things going on Day 1 because it's actually behaviour I want to reinforce overall. So unfortunately I cannot employ my best tool in this situation. Attacking someone else remains a viable option, should the situation arise, but right now would likely be seen as the transparent attempt to deflect suspicion that it would be.

So I think I'll just attack your methodology and focus on the questionable results of your statistics. Joke votes apparently count as "contributing". My post where I answer ranagrande's appearances question, even now after enough people have answered that the "correct" response is easily obvious and my post is therefore pretty much entirely worthless, counts for as much "contribution" as when I answered Isaac's question first and therefore unknowing that everybody else would have the same answers as I did. And then there's that time when Yunalesca said "actually, I'm back" and Praziquantel answered "Whoops, missed that, sorry" and everyone gets contribution points. In fact, since both Yunalesca and Fox and Ravens informed Praziquantel, and he apologised for his mistake both times and gets contribution points for each, that was a very worthwhile error. Beetnemesis got a contribution point for saying "Sorry I didn't have anything new to add...", which is basically a contribution through admission of inability to contribute. Seriously.

Now, far be it from me to suggest that you're deliberately manipulating a subjective definition of "contribution" to draw suspicion away from certain players (namely Taiga, who switched places with me on your ranking), because I suspect this is merely an incidental consequence of an inherently flawed methodology and see no reason to ascribe to evil intent what can be easily explained by lack of thorough examination, but it seems pretty clear that your conclusion are on extremely shaky ground with regards to objective foundations. Your entire narrative is that, whilst I have been participating about as much as the average player with regards to objective posting, there is a discrepancy with my worthwhile contributions according to your subjective evaluation. Now here's the important question, why should I - or anyone else - place any importance in this evaluation?

It seems likely to me that you've got other players strung along for the ride because they were impressed by your numbers, without bothering to look at where those numbers come from. Posts such as those I've highlighted above are hardly furthering the town's interests. They are not, as I would put it, useful contributions. And since that is what you claim to have been measuring, I cannot do anything but dismiss the accuracy of your evaluation.


One thing I noticed when I actually ran down through the posts was that both you and beet had a very few number of posts that contained the least substance. That is a very good point that you answered Isaac's question first. Most scum leave it alone until they see some other responses.

I just have a question, though. I'm curious why you've been away. Without getting into personal matters, I'm curious if it was more or nothing to add or if you were pre-occupied with life.

Go Hokies!

CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
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It was you that done it, now own up! *NM* - 29/07/2013 11:41:40 PM 951 Views
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Re: Vote: Hobo - 01/08/2013 10:44:27 AM 1657 Views
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If I remember correctly he had some dastatdly plot to catch the scum. - 01/08/2013 04:32:51 PM 1615 Views
He was very unclear on tha tpoint after the fact - 01/08/2013 11:27:00 PM 1658 Views
No, his plan was actually pretty good. - 06/08/2013 01:00:31 AM 1745 Views
How is that a good plan? - 06/08/2013 06:37:24 AM 1772 Views
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Rules are made to be broken. *NM* - 30/07/2013 06:51:38 PM 954 Views
But is this rule able to be broken? *NM* - 30/07/2013 06:54:22 PM 934 Views
Sure. Last time he lost was game 29. *NM* - 30/07/2013 09:32:45 PM 906 Views
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I vaguely remember the Marvel game, but not any specifics... *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:55:24 PM 938 Views
I do... - 05/08/2013 04:25:10 AM 1564 Views
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Isaac is like the German Soccer team in this. - 01/08/2013 10:45:39 AM 1481 Views
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(here) *NM* - 29/07/2013 11:03:26 PM 918 Views
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Re: Vote: Sacrilicious Toast - 01/08/2013 10:50:16 AM 1533 Views
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Activate! *NM* - 31/07/2013 03:03:50 AM 926 Views
Not too bad that you waited with the game, Berg - 01/08/2013 10:35:51 AM 1551 Views
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Okay, getting moving (Table) - 01/08/2013 11:45:30 PM 1694 Views
Yes, No, No. *NM* - 02/08/2013 02:32:52 AM 911 Views
Yes, No, No - 02/08/2013 08:54:12 AM 1621 Views
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Yeah, my name's a real one too, just not logically related to anything in the game. *NM* - 02/08/2013 07:17:42 PM 913 Views
Same here. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:54:10 PM 881 Views
Yes, No, No *NM* - 02/08/2013 01:03:24 PM 887 Views
Yes, no, no *NM* - 02/08/2013 08:26:52 PM 832 Views
yes, no, no *NM* - 03/08/2013 01:10:00 AM 923 Views
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Yes. No. No. - 04/08/2013 09:02:49 AM 1465 Views
Re: Yes. No. No. - 04/08/2013 11:19:03 AM 1548 Views
Yes, No, No *NM* - 03/08/2013 11:06:41 PM 921 Views
Yes, no, no. Also, I'm back. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:52:11 PM 792 Views
Yes, no, no. Also, I'm back. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:52:47 PM 879 Views
Dangit, I hate when I double post. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:53:29 PM 933 Views
Yes, No No *NM* - 05/08/2013 03:28:03 AM 933 Views
Sorry I didn't have anything new to add... *NM* - 05/08/2013 03:29:28 AM 859 Views
Yes, No, No. *NM* - 06/08/2013 12:46:10 AM 864 Views
I might as well Unvote before I forget - 02/08/2013 03:32:43 PM 1526 Views
EBWOP - 02/08/2013 03:33:23 PM 1492 Views
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Re: Vote: Isaac - 03/08/2013 07:32:48 AM 1541 Views
The "... and people die" part is probably accurate though *NM* - 03/08/2013 12:32:40 PM 879 Views
Correlation does not equal causation . *NM* - 03/08/2013 05:42:30 PM 908 Views
Precisely *NM* - 04/08/2013 11:22:52 AM 893 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 05/08/2013 08:31:03 PM 1608 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 06/08/2013 06:40:24 AM 1553 Views
Baaaack~ - 03/08/2013 11:26:57 PM 1553 Views
Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 07:03:07 PM 1606 Views
Well - 05/08/2013 07:25:22 PM 1529 Views
That is correct - 05/08/2013 07:35:24 PM 1551 Views
Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 09:42:23 PM 1595 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:09:48 PM 1642 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:20:02 PM 1625 Views
I posted I was back.... NLRBIRL *NM* - 05/08/2013 10:25:58 PM 842 Views
Yeah, I missed that. Sorry *NM* - 06/08/2013 03:13:11 AM 919 Views
What's the NL for? RBIRL Real Busy in Real Life, NL=? - 06/08/2013 08:56:16 AM 1573 Views
Oh, duh, "No Longer" RBIRL *NM* - 06/08/2013 08:57:15 AM 879 Views
Yup *NM* - 06/08/2013 01:00:31 PM 923 Views
would be a very awkward abbreviation - 07/08/2013 10:05:17 AM 1519 Views
Re: Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 08:26:01 PM 1692 Views
Agreed. Random lynches seem like a last resort to me. - 05/08/2013 08:55:59 PM 1603 Views
Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:52:25 AM 1672 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 06:59:26 AM 1594 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 10:01:18 AM 1600 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:56:47 PM 1688 Views
I didn't have anything either. *NM* - 06/08/2013 01:02:46 PM 918 Views
No, I'm sorry, I don't - 06/08/2013 02:33:58 PM 1645 Views
No appearance was described in my role message. *NM* - 06/08/2013 08:45:51 PM 901 Views
Nope. *NM* - 07/08/2013 07:23:00 PM 914 Views
No, nothing on appearance *NM* - 07/08/2013 09:02:11 PM 903 Views
I think we may need to contemplate some semi-random options - 06/08/2013 07:55:25 AM 1577 Views
List of remarks by the 'accused', plus some remarks on them - 06/08/2013 08:51:15 AM 1756 Views
explanation - 06/08/2013 09:05:55 AM 1627 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:47:35 AM 1638 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:59:45 AM 1671 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 01:28:49 PM 1607 Views
I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 06/08/2013 10:00:22 AM 1625 Views
Re: I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 07/08/2013 07:48:34 PM 1547 Views
Your questions - 06/08/2013 02:59:16 PM 1662 Views
I apparently answered your questions backwards - 06/08/2013 03:06:06 PM 1620 Views
I would look at it a bit differently, even if the outcome doesn't change that much - 06/08/2013 03:55:12 PM 1665 Views
Well, I'm impressed - 06/08/2013 04:11:31 PM 1562 Views
I thank you for the compliment. - 06/08/2013 09:51:54 PM 1616 Views
Re: I thank you for the compliment. - 07/08/2013 01:53:25 AM 1571 Views
Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 11:08:21 AM 1577 Views
Re: Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 01:01:55 PM 1597 Views
Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 09:46:26 PM 1651 Views
I think you just killed Beetnemesis *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:56:16 PM 900 Views
Better him than me . *NM* - 07/08/2013 11:16:29 PM 894 Views
Re: Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 11:32:12 PM 1546 Views
nice analysis - 07/08/2013 10:25:20 AM 1510 Views
Like I said before, Tables=Death - 06/08/2013 07:20:07 PM 1610 Views
Re: Like I said before, Tables=Death - 06/08/2013 08:22:47 PM 1523 Views
Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 03:37:36 PM 1518 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:11:04 PM 1562 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:43:12 PM 1607 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 05:34:04 PM 1594 Views
He really is... - 07/08/2013 04:55:59 PM 1557 Views
Re: He really is... - 07/08/2013 08:36:44 PM 1609 Views
Hm, that's not quite what I was thinking when I said that - 08/08/2013 08:49:11 PM 1481 Views
BAMF? - 07/08/2013 06:31:59 PM 1530 Views
It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:38:24 PM 1627 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:42:30 PM 1652 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:45:49 PM 1611 Views
When it comes to Marvel, it's Spidey and Deadpool all the way! X-Men. Pffft. - 07/08/2013 10:38:41 PM 1533 Views
Dr Doom was always my favorite hero in Marvel, but Deadpool is pretty cool *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:52:39 PM 853 Views
Dr Doom has cool costume, but other than that I don't know much about him. - 07/08/2013 11:37:09 PM 1531 Views
He's Marvel's Lex Luthor, only much cooler - 07/08/2013 11:48:00 PM 1517 Views
I'd actually say he's a bit more like Marvel's Superman than Marvel's Lex Luthor. - 07/08/2013 11:54:14 PM 1634 Views
I'm not a Marvel fan, but Doom is amazing. - 07/08/2013 11:52:09 PM 1523 Views
OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 04:49:33 PM 1617 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 05:44:09 PM 1624 Views
Well, you obviously know something, so out with it - 07/08/2013 06:33:04 PM 1561 Views
With that in mind... sounds like I hit too close to home, and you got sensitive - 08/08/2013 03:10:50 AM 1605 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis, Are you accusing me of being scum for pointing out your post had no substance? - 08/08/2013 03:39:25 AM 1643 Views
Re: - 08/08/2013 06:30:26 AM 1546 Views
Granted, as you yourself pointed out: attack is the best defense - 08/08/2013 08:17:31 AM 1494 Views
How often do we even have SKs? *NM* - 08/08/2013 09:39:58 AM 975 Views
This pushes it over the edge for me too. - 08/08/2013 01:13:21 PM 1546 Views
Hah. You got prickly pretty quickly. - 08/08/2013 07:39:24 PM 1549 Views
Prickly? I'm not touchy about it just suspiscious - 08/08/2013 08:01:39 PM 1521 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 06:38:45 PM 1567 Views
My feeling is that a "normal" game is pretty easy to balance - 08/08/2013 03:08:09 AM 1550 Views
re - 07/08/2013 08:36:15 PM 1556 Views
Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 04:31:26 PM 1576 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 05:44:54 PM 1559 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 07:51:09 PM 1605 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:02:45 PM 1561 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:05:52 PM 1687 Views
The thing we want to avoid is MASS roleclaim - 09/08/2013 08:30:32 AM 1484 Views
Okay, almost totally off topic but... - 07/08/2013 11:40:54 PM 1485 Views
The problem with that - 08/08/2013 08:09:56 AM 1575 Views
Re: The problem with that - 08/08/2013 05:02:56 PM 1551 Views
Reminds me of the Cairhien game a bit. - 08/08/2013 06:14:17 PM 1525 Views
That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 07:48:42 PM 1559 Views
I haaaated the Cairhien game - 08/08/2013 08:16:57 PM 1569 Views
Re: That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 09:42:25 PM 1539 Views
Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 05:51:23 PM 1515 Views
My take: - 08/08/2013 08:00:13 PM 1702 Views
Did you just admit to being a scummer? - 08/08/2013 08:04:21 PM 1577 Views
Hah, remember when I mentioned grasping at straws? - 08/08/2013 09:31:35 PM 1521 Views
We have always used the term that way, always, that and only that back to game 2 - 08/08/2013 09:44:20 PM 1588 Views
Holy crap, 4 years ago. - 09/08/2013 02:09:09 AM 1440 Views
That's when you asked and were told by the Moderator, it has come up since then many times - 09/08/2013 04:10:28 AM 1514 Views
I can't be the only person laughing at you right now - 09/08/2013 05:44:03 PM 1524 Views
I doubt anyone is laughing including yourself - 09/08/2013 06:08:41 PM 1518 Views
No, he's correct. - 08/08/2013 09:53:43 PM 1643 Views
Re: My take: - 08/08/2013 08:12:46 PM 1627 Views
To be a student of Isaac is a subtle thing - 08/08/2013 09:30:02 PM 1483 Views
sure - 08/08/2013 08:44:06 PM 1553 Views
Hmm, my thoughts, - 08/08/2013 08:56:27 PM 1630 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 10:30:22 PM 1576 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 11:18:56 PM 1617 Views
"Post count" usually acts as a tiebreaker - 09/08/2013 02:12:28 AM 1579 Views
I disagree - 09/08/2013 09:00:33 AM 1499 Views
Re: I disagree - 09/08/2013 11:25:29 AM 1509 Views
Several people have called for a roleclaim from beet - 09/08/2013 09:06:28 AM 1538 Views
I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 09:16:51 AM 1535 Views
Re: I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 03:18:38 PM 1598 Views
No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 03:49:21 PM 1502 Views
Re: No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 04:05:31 PM 1533 Views
Ah. Well that definitely explains it. *NM* - 09/08/2013 04:49:55 PM 877 Views
That's awesome. *NM* - 09/08/2013 09:21:59 PM 865 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 09/08/2013 11:48:13 AM 1481 Views
I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 05:47:23 PM 1558 Views
Re: I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 07:10:44 PM 1417 Views
OK, so the smiley was a typo - 09/08/2013 07:26:58 PM 1559 Views
I do, but - 09/08/2013 03:39:28 PM 1525 Views
RBIRL - 09/08/2013 05:50:21 AM 1552 Views
The case on Beetnemesis - 09/08/2013 05:05:32 PM 1659 Views
Ah good, time for a point-by-point rebuttal - 09/08/2013 06:04:11 PM 1559 Views
EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 06:14:25 PM 1626 Views
Actually... - 09/08/2013 06:38:26 PM 1591 Views
I can't see any difference with Isaac's "aggressiveness". *NM* - 09/08/2013 07:31:28 PM 959 Views
Re: EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 07:55:19 PM 1647 Views
Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:04:40 PM 1631 Views
Shrug, I have nothing against roleclaiming. Roleclaim: Tracker - 09/08/2013 07:33:40 PM 1555 Views
Correct me if wrong... - 09/08/2013 08:39:58 PM 1589 Views
Exactly! - 09/08/2013 11:06:25 PM 1606 Views
Wow, I'm gone for 24 hours, - 11/08/2013 12:02:38 AM 1549 Views
No, you just did everything you could to avoid it, like claiming almost no one had asked... - 09/08/2013 08:42:10 PM 1665 Views
I think you're right. - 09/08/2013 11:47:32 PM 1789 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:49:12 PM 1541 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 08:04:42 PM 1632 Views
too much mud - 09/08/2013 09:50:35 PM 1645 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis - 11/08/2013 10:32:51 AM 1733 Views
@ Mod, Vote Check - 11/08/2013 04:46:16 PM 1563 Views
That's a valid vote, I had missed it. Twilight pending. - 11/08/2013 05:36:13 PM 1546 Views
Actually, so did I. Did I hammer? - 11/08/2013 05:55:14 PM 1505 Views
Yes. *NM* - 11/08/2013 05:59:47 PM 766 Views
beetnemesis has been lynched. - 11/08/2013 05:52:43 PM 1610 Views

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